991 GT2RS
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This is a great point. I keep hearing about these multi year old blind deposits. For those of you that have started playing this way, think how unfair it would be if your $1000 "deposit" got you in front of guys that buy lots of cars and make the dealer lots of money. It's silly.
I will admit that it is unscrupulous for some dealers to promise these people high priority just so they can hold their money. Uncool.
I will admit that it is unscrupulous for some dealers to promise these people high priority just so they can hold their money. Uncool.
Typical stealer.
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Originally Posted by CHADW
If you are active with a Porsche dealer, regularly buy cars, keep the relationship going, you can and will have the opportunity to order and purchase limited production models such as the GT3RS and GT2RS... I know this for a fact, because I've done it!
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This is a great point. I keep hearing about these multi year old blind deposits. For those of you that have started playing this way, think how unfair it would be if your $1000 "deposit" got you in front of guys that buy lots of cars and make the dealer lots of money. It's silly.
I will admit that it is unscrupulous for some dealers to promise these people high priority just so they can hold their money. Uncool.
I will admit that it is unscrupulous for some dealers to promise these people high priority just so they can hold their money. Uncool.
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If I lived in a bigger city, I think you'd be absolutely correct. But I live in a town of 400,000 people... I can assure you, there's not that kind of money floating around where I live...
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Would rather have the Lambo than a Ferrari 458 or 488 (either Speciale or GTO trims)
Yes, I know it's AWD, but it'll spank both F cars on a track, ceteris paribus.
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I was in the meeting yesterday with the concerned owners group and asked Frank Walliser head of GT cars about production levels for the GT2RS and he said this will not be a numbered car and that they will produce enough cars -1 for those that want one. He stated they made a mistake with the 911R by not producing enough cars which created ill will from those that didn't get one..
Check out the "911" line : http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=1033
It's been that way for a while.
Limiting production of the 911 GT cars to retain their exclusivity (or whatever) is an interesting tactic (borrowed from Ferrari,I think). It seems to me, that it works as long as other 911 cars occupy the assembly line time. But, when run of the mill 911's aren't selling, the assembly line slows, maybe even stops. Because an inactive assembly line quickly gobbles up lots of profit, the pressure increases to sell more of something that does have demand- i.e., GT cars.
It may soon be a good time to pick one up at sticker, or less.
That's my take on it.
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[QUOTE=fuddman;14373150]With all due respect, I think Mr. Walliser is blowing smoke. To me, Porsche producing more GT cars going forward has less to do with repairing bruised feelings of customers who didn't get one and more to do with the need for Porsche to sell more 911's. Worldwide, I suspect; but, in the US in particular.
Dr Frank Walliser will never blow smoke up your ***. This guy didn't get to the top of the heap because he was a bull ****ter. The dealings with him are as honest as you will find from any top executive.
Let me ask you a question, would you rather have 300k cars going down the production line or 100k. They can only build so many cars with the current facilities, what's your call...what would you do?
The question should be what will the true depreciation value be given a higher production level. If the cars are not rare it will depreciate like any other car...
Dr Frank Walliser will never blow smoke up your ***. This guy didn't get to the top of the heap because he was a bull ****ter. The dealings with him are as honest as you will find from any top executive.
Let me ask you a question, would you rather have 300k cars going down the production line or 100k. They can only build so many cars with the current facilities, what's your call...what would you do?
The question should be what will the true depreciation value be given a higher production level. If the cars are not rare it will depreciate like any other car...
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I don't care about depreciation these are cars - don't drive them they depreciate less is that what your concerned group discusses with Mr Walliser?
I made an effort to place a deposit on a 350k car - they / dealer can not will not respond in any manner.
So I take my 350k and buy something else do who do you think earned my business.
Appreciate you posting but it's just not reality - drivers want their cars it's one thing to place a deposit and wait it's another when one goes to the store and it's closed during business hours.
With all due respect, I think Mr. Walliser is blowing smoke. To me, Porsche producing more GT cars going forward has less to do with repairing bruised feelings of customers who didn't get one and more to do with the need for Porsche to sell more 911's. Worldwide, I suspect; but, in the US in particular.
Dr Frank Walliser will never blow smoke up your ***. This guy didn't get to the top of the heap because he was a bull ****ter. The dealings with him are as honest as you will find from any top executive.
Let me ask you a question, would you rather have 300k cars going down the production line or 100k. They can only build so many cars with the current facilities, what's your call...what would you do?
The question should be what will the true depreciation value be given a higher production level. If the cars are not rare it will depreciate like any other car...
Dr Frank Walliser will never blow smoke up your ***. This guy didn't get to the top of the heap because he was a bull ****ter. The dealings with him are as honest as you will find from any top executive.
Let me ask you a question, would you rather have 300k cars going down the production line or 100k. They can only build so many cars with the current facilities, what's your call...what would you do?
The question should be what will the true depreciation value be given a higher production level. If the cars are not rare it will depreciate like any other car...
I made an effort to place a deposit on a 350k car - they / dealer can not will not respond in any manner.
So I take my 350k and buy something else do who do you think earned my business.
Appreciate you posting but it's just not reality - drivers want their cars it's one thing to place a deposit and wait it's another when one goes to the store and it's closed during business hours.
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With all due respect, I think Mr. Walliser is blowing smoke. To me, Porsche producing more GT cars going forward has less to do with repairing bruised feelings of customers who didn't get one and more to do with the need for Porsche to sell more 911's. Worldwide, I suspect; but, in the US in particular.
Check out the "911" line : http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=1033
It's been that way for a while.
Limiting production of the 911 GT cars to retain their exclusivity (or whatever) is an interesting tactic (borrowed from Ferrari,I think). It seems to me, that it works as long as other 911 cars occupy the assembly line time. But, when run of the mill 911's aren't selling, the assembly line slows, maybe even stops. Because an inactive assembly line quickly gobbles up lots of profit, the pressure increases to sell more of something that does have demand- i.e., GT cars.
It may soon be a good time to pick one up at sticker, or less.
That's my take on it.
Check out the "911" line : http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=1033
It's been that way for a while.
Limiting production of the 911 GT cars to retain their exclusivity (or whatever) is an interesting tactic (borrowed from Ferrari,I think). It seems to me, that it works as long as other 911 cars occupy the assembly line time. But, when run of the mill 911's aren't selling, the assembly line slows, maybe even stops. Because an inactive assembly line quickly gobbles up lots of profit, the pressure increases to sell more of something that does have demand- i.e., GT cars.
It may soon be a good time to pick one up at sticker, or less.
That's my take on it.
Nowadays, PAG is an SUV company, as the link you provided so clearly illustrates.
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I don't care about depreciation these are cars - don't drive them they depreciate less is that what your concerned group discusses with Mr Walliser?
I made an effort to place a deposit on a 350k car - they / dealer can not will not respond in any manner.
So I take my 350k and buy something else do who do you think earned my business.
Appreciate you posting but it's just not reality - drivers want their cars it's one thing to place a deposit and wait it's another when one goes to the store and it's closed during business hours.
Whether GT cars depreciated a lot or went up in value, it doesn't matter to me. I'm a driver and tracking for me is my way of blowing off steam after all the hustlin plus the guys that I track with are all good people. I never knew it was going to be this difficult buying expensive cars, you'd think it'd be a easier. A part of me is hoping that Porsche fully goes turbo or hybrid so I can stop trying to buy new GT cars.
I don't care about depreciation these are cars - don't drive them they depreciate less is that what your concerned group discusses with Mr Walliser?
I made an effort to place a deposit on a 350k car - they / dealer can not will not respond in any manner.
So I take my 350k and buy something else do who do you think earned my business.
Appreciate you posting but it's just not reality - drivers want their cars it's one thing to place a deposit and wait it's another when one goes to the store and it's closed during business hours.
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997 GT2RS was easy to get
997 RS4.0 was easy to get
the net RS may not be so easy
neither was the R.
i bought more GT3/RS in last 10 years than some dealers! i was not able to land a R, .and close to 30 GT/RS cars i only got ONE PTS...
pls introduce your dealer to me.
i can bring them more customers than they can fathom.
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I don't care about depreciation these are cars - don't drive them they depreciate less is that what your concerned group discusses with Mr Walliser?
I made an effort to place a deposit on a 350k car - they / dealer can not will not respond in any manner.
So I take my 350k and buy something else do who do you think earned my business.
Appreciate you posting but it's just not reality - drivers want their cars it's one thing to place a deposit and wait it's another when one goes to the store and it's closed during business hours.
Well said!!! agree 100% With Mclaren in the mix now. There's an equal if not better alternative now.
I don't care about depreciation these are cars - don't drive them they depreciate less is that what your concerned group discusses with Mr Walliser?
I made an effort to place a deposit on a 350k car - they / dealer can not will not respond in any manner.
So I take my 350k and buy something else do who do you think earned my business.
Appreciate you posting but it's just not reality - drivers want their cars it's one thing to place a deposit and wait it's another when one goes to the store and it's closed during business hours.
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Thanks and agree - 675LT spider maybe a Ford GT Heritage.
RS drive today only thing missing is a better exhaust - no turbo / additional 150K I am out of the Porsche dealer game.
Cares aren't really getting that much faster - tires are.
Look at the Camaro run at the ring - Goodyear just showed the industry a whole new level of performance.
RS drive today only thing missing is a better exhaust - no turbo / additional 150K I am out of the Porsche dealer game.
Cares aren't really getting that much faster - tires are.
Look at the Camaro run at the ring - Goodyear just showed the industry a whole new level of performance.
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