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There's other stuff out there showing 918 cars were sold beyond 2014. There's a new one, being offered right now. Been sitting on the dealers lot for a couple of years. Autotrader.
I've come to believe this kind of confusion is commonplace among people (especially auto press people) who are gaga, so to speak, over a car. They are easily convinced a name on a dealer list is a sold car. Everyone else understands a car is not sold until money changes hands and papers are signed.
It, still, surprises me a Porsche Canada CEO, with all his experience, got suckered into saying that.
Actually dude, you might need to provide proof that you can actually pay for a 2 million $ bet?
just about everyone here knows I am good for it. What about you? Just my 918 and the 911R are worth more than what we betts on, let alone everything else I owned or just bought.
You can PM me if you feel embarrassed about posting online
Check the bottom of the table for this footnote "*918 Spyder sales are reflected in 2016 grand total figures."
Add the individual numbers in the 2016 cars sold column. The number comes out 26707. One short of the number recorded at the bottom of the table, 26708. That's the 918 sold in 2016. Or, at least, that's what they say accounts for the difference in totals.
Hey, don't get mad at me! I didn't make up the table or the note.
In terms of getting priority in aquiring PORSCHE GT cars as your intent is to "collect" them, I do not see anything different than what Ferrari does. The limited production Ferrari nowadays (e.g., Speciale, F12tdf) requires prospective buyers to buy multiple Ferraris and not cherry pick only the limited and numbered edition. I have to give props to Ferrari as dealers are not supposed to sell their cars over MSRP.
I am not sure if you bought your CGT and GT3RS new or used. I do not know if you bought them from the same dealer. If your intent was to "collect", I am surprised you were not aware of the 918 VIP Program as that would have assured you of at least first dibs on any PORSCHE GT cars.
I see you have a Viper ACR. I too have one (Viper ACR-Extreme 1 of 28). If the Dodge Demon tickles your fancy, have you tried your luck if you can get a Dodge Demon? To me no luck because they are only making 3,300 copies supposedly and each dealer only gets one. There are originally 3,700 dealerships, with each dealer getting one Dodge Demon only. Therefor there will be Dodge dealers that will not get a Dodge Demon. The Dodge dealer (third biggest Dodge Viper dealer) where I bought two Viper ACR's from, will only get one Dodge Demon and the owner will have it and no intention of selling it.
In my experience you have to establish a very good relationship with a dealer along with being a regular buyer of their product. For the most part that "relationship" helps. Only PORSCHE have this VIP Program and all other car manufacturers have VIP customers. There is a difference on those two concepts. Whereas in PORSCHE, those who are in the VIP Program by default are also their VIP customers.
If all else fails, there are certainly other car brands that are collectible, quick, fast, and cool cars as well. We all have choices. By the way, you do have cool toys in your garage.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Thanks - enjoy the Viper it went out on top - added stage 2 #9 GTS-R will do the 9.0 upgrade this winter. Dodge Demon is cool but my guess is the Viper will get in the 9's.
Not a fan of energizer bunny cars - next huracan is getting the Porsche 8 cylinder turbo's 700 - 800hp the aventador will make 1000 hp agree there are others Ferrari's 488 GTO should make 725 hp.
Ferrari chooses who gets their LE cars based on allocations not the dealers - they submit no games no dealer cars. Local Lambo dealer received a few no name or people backed out SV's they weren't even allowed to advertise the cars.
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Ok so anyone outside VIP get an allocation yet? I hate bugging my dealer till allocations are happening. I am at top of waiting list but hate seeming desperate.
It's not a 3 year old car - 918 has been tweaked updated refreshed and it lost at 13 tracks to the Viper at 140k. The Viper runs at the Ring are just above 7m.
Agree tires but Lamborghini nor Viper cheated also agree there are many great brands but owning CGT GT3RS it was my intent on collecting P cars only to find out there's no way to order what was stated to be a car available to the public and the dealer prefers to sell to brokers at adm. Being newer to the brand it's the complete opposite of the other brands at this level. Lamborghini nor Ferrari dealers can't even advertise a limited edition or special new car it's offered very quietly if the buyer backs out P dealers order for themselves to hold an auction why this is allowed vs building for a local customer is what it is - anyway lesson learned.
Who is doing the engineering on the Viper? Pretty sure that if it was Zakspeed or someone else intimately familiar with the Ring they could find a bit more time.
Reliable numbers is that HK will get 20+ cars and that's just the initial allocation. Proof that this car will not be low-production.
By my highly uneducated guess based on past numbers and the tingling of the hair on my back, I think we're looking at a 2,000 to 2,500-car production run.
There, numbers without even having to sleep with cleaning ladies.
Reliable numbers is that HK will get 20+ cars and that's just the initial allocation. Proof that this car will not be low-production.
By my highly uneducated guess based on past numbers and the tingling of the hair on my back, I think we're looking at a 2,000 to 2,500-car production run.
There, numbers without even having to sleep with cleaning ladies.
If we get that many cars worldwide there will be a lot of HAPPY Drivers
But never mind, you the nobody knows more about 918s than I do
Seriously, you could probably pick a fight about 918 with just about anybody else here and you might be able to bluff them off. Except, me.
Are you willing to bet on what you claimed? How confident are you?
Let's do a little bet, if you are right, I will buy you a 918 at current market price. And if you are wrong, you will buy me one at current market price? I want mine in Basalt Black with black interior and Weissach pack. Oh, I also want the dash signed by Dr. Walliser. Dated please. Just like my own.
It's only about a 2 million bet (car cost you about 1.8mil, but you might have to spend 200k to get Frank to sign the car), I am sure if you feel you are in the right that's a sure win.
It's only 4 million dollars bet after al either way, I am sure the cocky self of yours will feel like you have a sure win.
So, it's deal?
But, being the kind person I am, I can save you 200k, I can just call up Frank and have him sign the car after you loses when I go pick it up in Weissach.
Originally Posted by fuddman
Check the bottom of the table for this footnote "*918 Spyder sales are reflected in 2016 grand total figures."
Add the individual numbers in the 2016 cars sold column. The number comes out 26707. One short of the number recorded at the bottom of the table, 26708. That's the 918 sold in 2016. Or, at least, that's what they say accounts for the difference in totals.
Hey, don't get mad at me! I didn't make up the table or the note.
It is correct that PCNA booked a single 918 sale in 2016. So who won the bet Whoopsy? Order book may have closed in 2014, but an order is not a sale. The douche factor is seriously sky high here lately. SMH
When the car "sold" out they weren't all built. It took time to build all the cars that were sold which is why they were delivered and reported as sold after 2014. When I went for the test drive with a friend in Sept that year I believe somewhere around 50ish of the allocations were left and they were all sold shortly thereafter.
In addition you would see "new" ones now because dealer owners bought them and probably never registered the car. You couldn't get a 918 into the US with out it being bought already. The one used in the auto show for 2014 had to be bought by PCNA before it would be sent for the show.
Thanks for the explanation.
I obviously did not have the facts. I should have avoided commenting altogether.
Here are several older renderings we did of the GT2 RS some of you may have seen on Facebook. If anybody needs any help speccing their GT2 RS or any other Porsche, feel free to shoot us a message!
We had the pleasure of checking out the GT2 RS at Quail Lodge at Car Week last weekend at a private Porsche event. The car is absolutely incredible in person! If you have one on order and have not yet seen the car in person, you will NOT be disappointed. :-)
It is correct that PCNA booked a single 918 sale in 2016. So who won the bet Whoopsy? Order book may have closed in 2014, but an order is not a sale. The douche factor is seriously sky high here lately. SMH
Just to clarify, (not to score any points, and definitely not to extend the debate...), in the case of the 918, an order was a sale. You had to sign a binding sale and purchase contract, and also pay what was described as 'the first instalment' of the purchase price, which was IRO $200,000. The second instalment (the balance) was due just prior to delivery.
By the end of 2014, the cars were sold and instalments were paid. My June 14 order had a 'sunset clause' of delivery by the end of 2015. (it arrived in May). I'm guessing later orders had sunset clauses into 2016, but in any event you had definitely bought it!
Reliable numbers is that HK will get 20+ cars and that's just the initial allocation. Proof that this car will not be low-production.
By my highly uneducated guess based on past numbers and the tingling of the hair on my back, I think we're looking at a 2,000 to 2,500-car production run.
There, numbers without even having to sleep with cleaning ladies.
I'd say that ties in with rumoured UK allocations.
Reliable numbers is that HK will get 20+ cars and that's just the initial allocation. Proof that this car will not be low-production.
By my highly uneducated guess based on past numbers and the tingling of the hair on my back, I think we're looking at a 2,000 to 2,500-car production run.
There, numbers without even having to sleep with cleaning ladies.
Originally Posted by Footsoldier
I'd say that ties in with rumoured UK allocations.
So to the knowledge of you both the 2000-2500 ww, number may be accurate?
08-27-2017, 08:29 PM
