Originally Posted by <3mph

As a diversion while we wait... not sure if lower photo of the model (from rear) has been posted yet. Sorry if it has been.

Originally Posted by Polesitter

We may be saying the same thing differently. The 991 GT3 engine could very well be the blueprint for what is deemed an "all new" engine. Perhaps a derivative of the 9A1 with various changes and component enhancements gets PM where they need to be. What is truly new or revolutionary vs evolutionary may be semantics. Although with this much time to develop a 9A1 derivative and it still not be deemed worthy of an invitation to the Motorsport prom, maybe it is more new than old.

As an aside, I did mention in a previous post that it has been vaguely hinted (and I heard some unconfirmed anecdotal chatter in the paddock) that there is another serious motor lurking around Weissach that is being vetted. The context was race engine. Maybe BS, but I circle back to racing reality and that they truly need to do something soon. Frankly, this transcends engines as well, but that's for another day.

Maybe the RS serves as a platform for this initiative. It spreads out some R&D costs, provides the RS a halo effect, serves as a homologation platform, enables a bigger pricing premium, satisfies the bean counters because they aren't putting it in umpteen thousand road going units, the hard core constituency gets a lump of sugar and this thread shuts down before it hits 500 pages !!!

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

There's just no way the 991.2 C2S will have more power than the 991.1 Turbo. It's just not Porsche's style to do that. Unless they announce the 991.2 Turbo to have 600hp at the same time they announce the dramatically powered 991.2 C2S... which is still unlikely (but not impossible).

Originally Posted by Polesitter

We may be saying the same thing differently. The 991 GT3 engine could very well be the blueprint for what is deemed an "all new" engine. Perhaps a derivative of the 9A1 with various changes and component enhancements gets PM where they need to be. What is truly new or revolutionary vs evolutionary may be semantics. Although with this much time to develop a 9A1 derivative and it still not be deemed worthy of an invitation to the Motorsport prom, maybe it is more new than old. As an aside, I did mention in a previous post that it has been vaguely hinted (and I heard some unconfirmed anecdotal chatter in the paddock) that there is another serious motor lurking around Weissach that is being vetted. The context was race engine. Maybe BS, but I circle back to racing reality and that they truly need to do something soon. Frankly, this transcends engines as well, but that's for another day. Maybe the RS serves as a platform for this initiative. It spreads out some R&D costs, provides the RS a halo effect, serves as a homologation platform, enables a bigger pricing premium, satisfies the bean counters because they aren't putting it in umpteen thousand road going units, the hard core constituency gets a lump of sugar and this thread shuts down before it hits 500 pages !!!

Originally Posted by Macca

Quite honestly I have little faith these days in reporting on the web.

Originally Posted by kosmo

hey, can you turn it over and take a few pics? does it have RWS? Does it in fact have a "new engine"? Im dying to know! That blood orange is my color!!!!

Originally Posted by 997rs4.0

I'm definitely one of the lunatics that loves the connection between the Motorsport engine and the road going RS! Call me a wannabe race driver. We are probably a very small group and most hang out here on RL. That's what's make it fun! I meet 7RS owners that don't know what a Mezger engine is.

Originally Posted by sunnyr

Mike, just FYI, in the motorsport magazine interview, that Pete posted few pages ago, Hatz clearly states the new RS engine is new compared to both previous RS and the current GT3 -

Also, reading the Motorsports Magazine article, I don't think it is one quote to one journalist that is being regurgitated, but different interviews to the different media outlets -

So it sounds Hatz repeated that information to multiple media outlets. If that is the case, I doubt it is the case of everyone misquoting him. The only question then is, is Hatz himself misinformed or deliberately misleading?

Originally Posted by Polesitter

Maybe BS, but I circle back to racing reality and that they truly need to do something soon. Frankly, this transcends engines as well, but that's for another day.

Originally Posted by 997s07

+1. Count me in. I'm not only lunatic enough to kiss my Mezger engine at night, I even kiss my manual transmission gear **** - after brushing my teeth at night.

Originally Posted by markow

the message is clear, PAG wants to distance itself from the 991 GT3 engine disaster. it could be a marketing
issue or a serious engineering one, no one knows (probably a mixture of both). at this point i would not buy a 991 GT3, the value could drop dead after the new-engine-991-RS release.
peter

Originally Posted by mrsullivan

that's actually ok... because if there was ever a car I would be fine to drive for the next many years, this is it... the most exciting car I have driven in my life...

Originally Posted by mrsullivan

that's actually ok... because if there was ever a car I would be fine to drive for the next many years, this is it... the most exciting car I have driven in my life...