Consolidated 991RS thread
01-22-2015, 03:41 PM
#3661
Race Director
the message is clear, PAG wants to distance itself from the 991 GT3 engine disaster. it could be a marketing
issue or a serious engineering one, no one knows (probably a mixture of both). at this point i would not buy a 991 GT3, the value could drop dead after the new-engine-991-RS release.
peter
issue or a serious engineering one, no one knows (probably a mixture of both). at this point i would not buy a 991 GT3, the value could drop dead after the new-engine-991-RS release.
peter
01-22-2015, 03:55 PM
#3662
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Most GT3 buyers will have been aware of the engine malfunctions. If the marketing around the RS is that it has a completely new engine as it appears it will be so far then that will imply that Porsche is moving on from the GT3 engine and people will conclude from that that it was a flawed and then orphaned design.
I think there's a lot of owners here who are 'talking their book'. Owners that are deeply invested and want to believe that there (1) isn't a completely new engine in the RS and (2) that there isn't going to be any resale impact from the engine issues... that they were compensated for.
01-22-2015, 03:58 PM
#3663
I don't think that's true at all... Even if Petevb was correct and the engine is an evolutionary design, the very fact that the marketing spin suggest otherwise is potentially problematic. Most GT3 buyers will have been aware of the engine malfunctions. If the marketing around the RS is that it has a completely new engine as it appears it will be so far then that will imply that Porsche is moving on from the GT3 engine and people will conclude from that that it was a flawed and then orphaned design. I think there's a lot of owners here who are 'talking their book'. Owners that are deeply invested and want to believe that there (1) isn't a completely new engine in the RS and (2) that there isn't going to be any resale impact from the engine issues... that they were compensated for.
01-22-2015, 04:03 PM
#3664
Nordschleife Master
01-22-2015, 04:04 PM
#3665
Race Director
01-22-2015, 04:05 PM
#3666
The 1.3 value will hold value better than the other 991s, other than the RS. It's also the most fun to drive, again other than the RS. The amount is speculation, but I don't see any other alternatives in the price range even if it drops by 40k in the first year, it's been worth buying to me.
01-22-2015, 04:07 PM
#3667
Race Director
01-22-2015, 04:15 PM
#3669
Rennlist Member
Whatever they eventually replace the mezger with in their motorsport program, they need have longer service intervals to control costs.....aka, part of the reason you see so many Audi R8 LMS cars being raced all over the world. In addition to being a great platform, their "race" V10 rebuild interval is WAY longer than a Cup/GT America for customer based racing.
01-22-2015, 04:26 PM
#3672
Three Wheelin'
I don't think that's true at all... Even if Petevb was correct and the engine is an evolutionary design, the very fact that the marketing spin suggest otherwise is potentially problematic.
Most GT3 buyers will have been aware of the engine malfunctions. If the marketing around the RS is that it has a completely new engine as it appears it will be so far then that will imply that Porsche is moving on from the GT3 engine and people will conclude from that that it was a flawed and then orphaned design.
I think there's a lot of owners here who are 'talking their book'. Owners that are deeply invested and want to believe that there (1) isn't a completely new engine in the RS and (2) that there isn't going to be any resale impact from the engine issues... that they were compensated for.
Most GT3 buyers will have been aware of the engine malfunctions. If the marketing around the RS is that it has a completely new engine as it appears it will be so far then that will imply that Porsche is moving on from the GT3 engine and people will conclude from that that it was a flawed and then orphaned design.
I think there's a lot of owners here who are 'talking their book'. Owners that are deeply invested and want to believe that there (1) isn't a completely new engine in the RS and (2) that there isn't going to be any resale impact from the engine issues... that they were compensated for.
01-22-2015, 04:27 PM
#3673
my guess is most of the 991 RS customers already own a 991 GT3. and they will be trading in their 991 GT3s when the RS arrives. in this case if 700 come to the states and half of those are upgrades from the regular 991 GT3 then you will all of a sudden have 350 extra 1-2-3 year old 991 GT3's on the market. That will hurt the value way more than any engine speculation.. anyone who races/tracks a 991 GT3 now is secretly dying inside to be the first to blow the replaced/revised engines. They are beating the **** out of this car on the track and no engines have blown since the fiasco. ZERO so no matter what engine ends up in the RS i don't think people are going to talk negatively about the 991 GT3 motor. its a beauty, its fast, fun, high revving, NON TURBO, and and can take a pounding. just my .02, and i dont know much
01-22-2015, 04:28 PM
#3674
Rennlist Member
the message is clear, PAG wants to distance itself from the 991 GT3 engine disaster. it could be a marketing issue or a serious engineering one, no one knows (probably a mixture of both). at this point i would not buy a 991 GT3, the value could drop dead after the new-engine-991-RS release. peter
I have a hunch the 991 Gt3 will become an epic star in the residuals stakes medium and long term. I almost will certainly not benefit from that as I always seem to sell my cars before they become collectors pieces but I think the 991 GT3 and subsequent RS will do well in the future.
The engine is the same basically .... Or did I say that already.... Lol
