Petevb

If you want to know how Porsche can make over 50% gross margin on some 911s, re-read the above.

JasonAndreas

In most racing series they require homologation of the cylinder heads from a street car. I would hazard a guess that if a future 991RSR is required to be normally aspirated, then it follows there will be a normally aspirated RS. Any NA engine running a low-compression cylinder head from a turbo would not be very competitive?

NateOZ

I would put money on the FIA changing the rules for WEC GT class in the very near-term to require hybrids or turbos. It's a European governing body - seems like a very obvious step.

JasonAndreas

The FIA LM-GTE rules already allow turbochargers, they just have to be unmodified(?) from the street cars. The question is can Porsche produce a competitive race car under the rules based on those turbos? They've been sticking with a NA engine up until now, so probably not?

GrantG

I think we only get the Evora in the US and the Toyota V6 is not much of a revver (and supercharged in S), but you picked the closest example, I think.

mrsullivan

I tried this. Thinking I was the perfect candidate for an AMG, since I drive on street weekend for fun only. So I went and purchased a brand new C63 AMG Black Series with all the goodies. It was awesome. Sort of a parts bin car with bits from the SLS and other high performance models. Coilover suspension, special composite brakes, fast shifting double clutch tranny, etc. And of course a special/different version of the 6.3 liter V8. RIDICULOUS in terms of the amount of torque and hp. Such a big engine, naturally aspirated, linear delivery, etc. Made me giggle like a little girl for a while. But in the end, was really just another muscle car like a Z28. Big power, no grip in the back. Slide around. I missed Porsche. The direct feel, the razor sharp handling, the zingy high revving engines. There is nothing quite like a 911. The dynamics are just different. And there is more experience packed into the steering, handling, braking, tranny, engine, etc.

Four Liter

Funny , but for many years I watch various makes and models come and go and while there might a flash in the pan once in a while there is nothing like a 911 . Always have a smile on my face and a tingle down my spine looking out the windshield thinking about how many drivers had that view on their way to so many major race victories. I've lamented the increasing complexity of all modern cars and hate to admit it , but think all the interiors post 964 look overdone and the cars themselves seem way too big , but the safety and emissions regs saw to that . Of anything out there I think Porsche has done a good job of keeping a link to the past at least with the GT cars .

Nizer

Not so much at the moment, but hoping we get back there....

Tick tock.

TRAKCAR

Hmm, OK something to think about. I was hugely impressed with the C63 coupe, special the giant interior space for tall people. I do think that the AMG GTS took it to the next level. But yeah, I hear what you are saying. I do have the RSAmerica for very analog track day driving..

mrsullivan

did you drive the black series? or just the standard c63 coupe? nothing wrong with the latter, but to use the analogy, difference between the gt3 standard vs the RS model... just a bit more raw, special, etc. If I was a kajillionaire and could have lots of toy cars, I would have kept it. The engine alone in that car was so special. But given the choice, I came back to Porsche.

The SLS Black Series would be the one to have. But at $300k+, lots of very good competition in that category...

neanicu

You want the C63 507

mrsullivan

Not enough difference over the regular c63. Black Series is where it's at for the AMG models

TRAKCAR

Just the regular one, Id go for a CPO one like I have all my MB's except the 500E obviously. I really don't like the SLS, too big, too heavy for track I think. That's why I think they may have struck a nice balance in the AMG GTS.

Petevb

More fuel for the engine speculation fire (perhaps a poor choice of words?):
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ro...-future-plans/

997rs4.0

C63 is one the best Autobahn cars I've ever driven! Have had a lot of nice drives from Hamburg to Munich. Comfortable, great sound, fast, and reasonably good brakes for road use! Only down side is mpg. But that's not really that important!