rxtrom

Shot you a PM to find out more...

Closertotruth

Sent a pm also.

evilfij

FORENN

goin2drt

His asking price was definitely the market price.

Is what I don't understand and maybe someone can explain. How does a dealer (non Porsche dealer. AMG in this case) get an allocation at a Porsche dealer (West Coast dealer as he stated in the post) that is customizable? In turn selling that spot for the $20K? Does the said Porsche dealer give the allocation to AMG and then he gives them a cut of the $20K?

Weird.

Perimeter

Good point
On one hand Porsche claims to not like flippers but on the other hand allocations are passed through to the secondary market for serious coin.

sampelligrino

Bingo... also are those open allocations or spoken for allocations is a big difference. A lot of people posted on the allocations thread about very late 2018 allocations since late last year. Still hoping Porsche makes more for those hunting for one.

He's sold two within the week I think at that price. People likely realizing the well is going to run dry sooner or later..

Archimedes

The brokers have good relationships with certain dealers and buy a lot of cars. That valuable relationship results in certain benefits. Don't get blinded by this subforum and think the GT3 market is its own little independent isolated part of the dealers business.

sampelligrino

It also saves face/effort for the dealer. They don't have to feel shady trying to pitch an ADM to their valued clients, to people hitting the showroom floor, or call around and find that buyer who will pay over MSRP versus have a broker deal with it and usher them clients with cash in hand for the "MSRP" deal as an under the table kind of thing... Let the brokers do the work and share the extra extra profits together unfortunately

Porsche of Arlington as one example, they have been reported to be asking north of $40k for their .2 GT3s and you have people here literally bashing the hell out of that dealer (rightfully so apparently) as they back out of MSRP deals for their clients to just sell to the highest bidder. Using a broker removes that element for the dealer

On one hand I paid an ADM for my allocation so I am supporting the very practice I don't like, but on the other hand if the GT3 was literally locked at MSRP I don't know if I would have ever gotten that call/allocation

johnny2five

This makes sense. These brokers help the dealers sell a bunch of Macans, Cayennes, 718s, non-GT 911s, and in turn, get GTs as a reward. If so, sounds like a familiar model.

johnny2five

Trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together (much of this is speculation):

1. EU emissions means no GT cars for that region towards end of year --> Direct more cars to EU before emissions cutoff --> less cars for US for a few months with large ramp at end of year
2. PTS stop order until August --> Increase in manufacturing efficiency to build more non PTS cars --> hopefully more allocations coming if efficiency is achieved
3. Ton of demand --> Allocate more resources to GT models is possible --> deliveries moving up --> hopefully more allocations coming

My guess Porsche doesn't know how many more GTs it can produce at this point for the US as a result of the above, but I'd assume there will be more GT3 allocations trickling in at the end of the year.

But wait...if Porsche could open up additional GT builds, would those slots go to the GT3? Or would they go to the 3RS or 2RS? My guess is the RS' since they are likely profitable and have more unsatisfied demand.

Alan C.

Ralph is a good guy.

usctrojanGT3

I'd love to know how the brokers help dealers sell Macans, Cayennes, 718s, and other non GT 911s...

Archimedes

No but I'll bet the brokers help dealers sell the very high dollar cars across the line, including bringing buyers to the table on the occasional super high end used Porsche they get into inventory. If a broker helps a dealer sell a 4.0 or a 911R or a CGT at a good price, I'm sure the dealer isn't going to worry to much about giving up a GT3 allocation or two. Relationships. Just like every other business/industry on the planet.

SJJ28

I sat in that car while I was specing mine...I ended up getting 18ways....so so comfy, and grip me just fine. I have 3 other cars with LWB, and while I think they're killer looking, they're just not comfortable for continued use...to each their own.

FYI, that black car is BEAUTIFUL!!