New GT3/GT2RS Leads With/Without ADM
#721
The sorry thing is that it will most certainly be worth more than you paid for it. I prefer that it does not go up in value and just depreciates slowly. I know it may sound silly on my part but I never want to open my garage door and think that I now need to be careful driving her because it is an appreciating asset. Nice to know it slowly depreciates and holds value but I am not interested in being worth more than i paid
#722
But buying a used MT6 can be risky. With the PDK you can not mis a shift but you can with an MT6 and it comes down to how the prior owners treated it. Buy new and you don't have that concern
Wild extreme case: Used Ferrari 430 MT6 buyer from dealer finds bad synchro on PPI, $40k+ repair by dealer
Wild extreme case: Used Ferrari 430 MT6 buyer from dealer finds bad synchro on PPI, $40k+ repair by dealer
The sorry thing is that it will most certainly be worth more than you paid for it. I prefer that it does not go up in value and just depreciates slowly. I know it may sound silly on my part but I never want to open my garage door and think that I now need to be careful driving her because it is an appreciating asset. Nice to know it slowly depreciates and holds value but I am not interested in being worth more than i paid
#723
The GT3 market is heating up and prices are starting to rise. First, PCNA announced that there will NOT be a MY2019 and GT3 production will end 12/2018. Now it appears that the 991.2 GT3 will be the last Naturally Aspirated GT3 (see link below). 3 weeks ago I had several available GT3s in the 10-15k premium range...they are all gone. Now I don't have anything available under 20k premium and the lowest price changeable build I have is 25 over. Unfortunately, I don't see anything in the next 12 months that will reverse the trend. Going forward I think the demand will overwhelm the supply and prices will continue higher.
#724
The sorry thing is that it will most certainly be worth more than you paid for it. I prefer that it does not go up in value and just depreciates slowly. I know it may sound silly on my part but I never want to open my garage door and think that I now need to be careful driving her because it is an appreciating asset. Nice to know it slowly depreciates and holds value but I am not interested in being worth more than i paid
#725
The sorry thing is that it will most certainly be worth more than you paid for it. I prefer that it does not go up in value and just depreciates slowly. I know it may sound silly on my part but I never want to open my garage door and think that I now need to be careful driving her because it is an appreciating asset. Nice to know it slowly depreciates and holds value but I am not interested in being worth more than i paid
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#726
I think the future is all but guaranteed for this scenario, at least that is what the current GT market is dictating. These cars are street legal race cars and the .2 is not 50k, better than the .1 on the track. Not to mention less than 5% of GT owners actually track their cars, so you have 95% of GT buyers for the coolness factor, speculating, collecting, and last but not least flipping er.. I mean unexpected life changes. These 95%ers are def driving up the demand and thus ADM because they can and its worth it for them. The market is good and money is abundant and I do not blame the dealers for taking advantage of this as its fundamental capitalism, (It does bother me however if a dealer promises a MSRP car and changes their mind due to said demand). So alas while I definitely wanted a .2 I am sort of glad I didn't get one, esp the unicorn PTS I wanted as I would never push the car in a turn like I could a "cheaper" .1 GT3 for fear of a ding, not to mention it had already lost "value" for being on the track in the first place. I've been searching for a neat spec .1 GT3 for a while now but I think those guys are hanging on to them, a stripper with buckets and red brakes with medium miles that I can beat on may be in line with what I want to use it for... The search continues in a different direction.
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#727
I was in panic-mode when I heard the 991.2 GT3 production was going to stop after MY2018... Then I thought to myself, "Why?" And I couldn't really come up with a reason other than I wanted the hottest hot. Yeah, it will probably be the last NA GT3... but the worlds moves on. The next GT3 won't be a piece of crap, and I'll get mine (second market NA or new... whatever) when the time is right. I've decided to approach my first 911 purchase with Zen and go where the current takes me.
Edit: I have noticed some 2018 GT3s popping up on Autotrader at MSRP, but I'm not sure if this is just a hook and a start to a "bidding" war.
Edit: I have noticed some 2018 GT3s popping up on Autotrader at MSRP, but I'm not sure if this is just a hook and a start to a "bidding" war.
#728
But buying a used MT6 can be risky. With the PDK you can not mis a shift but you can with an MT6 and it comes down to how the prior owners treated it. Buy new and you don't have that concern
Wild extreme case: Used Ferrari 430 MT6 buyer from dealer finds bad synchro on PPI, $40k+ repair by dealer
Wild extreme case: Used Ferrari 430 MT6 buyer from dealer finds bad synchro on PPI, $40k+ repair by dealer
#729
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Agree, GT cars are street cars, if you really want to track properly buy a cup car. Until then it’s never the real deal. I get the whole drive from home to the track, do some laps and drive home thing (and not have to worry about a trailer etc) but let’s not kid ourselves; these are not race cars (street legal yes, but race car no). I know, I’ve been there. I tracked my GT3 and 3RS and thought they were the best thing ever until I got a taste of the cup car and some open wheelers. The closest my 2RS will come to the track will be when it parks up in the garage while I track the cup. Other than that it’s a nice road car for an occasional hills blast.
Agree, GT cars are street cars, if you really want to track properly buy a cup car. Until then it’s never the real deal. I get the whole drive from home to the track, do some laps and drive home thing (and not have to worry about a trailer etc) but let’s not kid ourselves; these are not race cars (street legal yes, but race car no). I know, I’ve been there. I tracked my GT3 and 3RS and thought they were the best thing ever until I got a taste of the cup car and some open wheelers. The closest my 2RS will come to the track will be when it parks up in the garage while I track the cup. Other than that it’s a nice road car for an occasional hills blast.
#731
Porsche does race these cars with CS package, completely stock.
its very competitive, I went to one race at Hockenheim and it was closer racing than the CUP race yesterday at Sebring. Some struggled to beat RS laptimes...
Porsche makes the best track cars and the RS is the top of the line.
i just want whatever is next with warranty.
When they stick the RS driveline in a CUP, I will dust off my trailer.
its very competitive, I went to one race at Hockenheim and it was closer racing than the CUP race yesterday at Sebring. Some struggled to beat RS laptimes...
Porsche makes the best track cars and the RS is the top of the line.
i just want whatever is next with warranty.
When they stick the RS driveline in a CUP, I will dust off my trailer.
#732
I was in panic-mode when I heard the 991.2 GT3 production was going to stop after MY2018... Then I thought to myself, "Why?" And I couldn't really come up with a reason other than I wanted the hottest hot. Yeah, it will probably be the last NA GT3... but the worlds moves on. The next GT3 won't be a piece of crap, and I'll get mine (second market NA or new... whatever) when the time is right. I've decided to approach my first 911 purchase with Zen and go where the current takes me.
Edit: I have noticed some 2018 GT3s popping up on Autotrader at MSRP, but I'm not sure if this is just a hook and a start to a "bidding" war.
Edit: I have noticed some 2018 GT3s popping up on Autotrader at MSRP, but I'm not sure if this is just a hook and a start to a "bidding" war.
#733
CUP compared to GT3
Agree, GT cars are street cars, if you really want to track properly buy a cup car. Until then it’s never the real deal. I get the whole drive from home to the track, do some laps and drive home thing (and not have to worry about a trailer etc) but let’s not kid ourselves; these are not race cars (street legal yes, but race car no). I know, I’ve been there. I tracked my GT3 and 3RS and thought they were the best thing ever until I got a taste of the cup car and some open wheelers. The closest my 2RS will come to the track will be when it parks up in the garage while I track the cup. Other than that it’s a nice road car for an occasional hills blast.
I have seriously considered the cup car for track. Can you share some concepts with ongoing expenses with the cup car compared to GT3 or RS Please?
#734
Wow, I guess it's ok to call people out for having them cars that don't track them, but don't dare say anything about that! Or you post gets deleted!!
FYI, I never said you shouldn't track your Gt3! You can all you want! You can track your base Boxster or your GTI, too!
But to whine that your not getting a car because others who won't track it are, is absurd!
Delete this post too!???!!!
You'd think a pm with a reason would accompany the lost post!
FYI, I never said you shouldn't track your Gt3! You can all you want! You can track your base Boxster or your GTI, too!
But to whine that your not getting a car because others who won't track it are, is absurd!
Delete this post too!???!!!
You'd think a pm with a reason would accompany the lost post!
#735
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I have seriously considered the cup car for track. Can you share some concepts with ongoing expenses with the cup car compared to GT3 or RS Please?[/QUOTE]
DE a CUP and it’s X5
Race a CUP and add a zero.
I have seriously considered the cup car for track. Can you share some concepts with ongoing expenses with the cup car compared to GT3 or RS Please?[/QUOTE]
DE a CUP and it’s X5
Race a CUP and add a zero.