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Ohh my goodness! I wasn’t expecting that end. Very exciting and thanks to all of those that chimed in! Very much appreciated.
Congrats! What a sale. I read some ridiculous comments on a post about the sale on Instagram. Can you believe some people scratch their heads and say things like 'but I can buy one for only 6k!?'.
The sooner we part out and deplete all the scrapyard examples the better, so I no longer have to read such ill informed bs.
Well hold your hat Seca, because there is an exceptional 94 GTS X38 about to hit BaT. It is from a well know seller Todd "Low miler" who sells exceptional quality 928's. Here's a couple of shots:
Oooh, will be keeping a very close eye on this one. Having just picked up another OB, I'm looking to bookend the collection with a special GTS. Thanks for the heads up, @linderpat
Oooh, will be keeping a very close eye on this one. Having just picked up another OB, I'm looking to bookend the collection with a special GTS. Thanks for the heads up, @linderpat
Yes, it looks fab... pity I live in Europe
Meanwhile, this Ex-Japan GTS has popped up on the EU market... https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/d...?id=353403480& Never seen the Walter Röhrl signature on the side of the car... Maybe they just bought a sticker? :P
Throwing my 2 cents in, I had the same experience multiple times. I love BAT but the Pcar service is far superior. I hope BAT doesn't ghost ban me now
The other advantage that PcarMarket offers that BAT doesn't is the Deal Tank where the cars automatically go for 30 days if they don't make reserve. This allows buyers to try to make a deal with the Seller after a no sale in the auction. It's possible a car misses the reserve by just a few hundred dollars and the high bidder may be willing to pay that to get it or the seller may be willing to take a few hundred less to get the car sold. With BAT, I believe when the auction ends, the car is no longer shown as available and don't know if the Email Seller link remains active either.
Can you believe some people scratch their heads and say things like 'but I can buy one for only 6k!?'.
I can believe it, because you can still buy a 928 for only $6k. And, depending on what you're looking for, a $6k 928 might be a great car.
Originally Posted by 8cyl
The sooner we part out and deplete all the scrapyard examples the better, so I no longer have to read such ill informed bs.
You have a value in mind for your car, then why do you care that there are $6k examples out there? Pushing prices up hill just drives potential owners - and potential cool people to hang out with at Frenzy - out of the market. I want more 928s on the road, not fewer. I don't care if they're pristine $60k show cars or ugly $6k basket cases. Frankly, I'm more likely to see the $6k basket cases at Frenzy.
This will be a good data point for the desirability of the early AT 928's as it looks to be in pretty good condition overall and a fairly unique color (Chiffon White).
Low mile 81 AT coming up on BAT... This will be a good data point for the desirability of the early AT 928's as it looks to be in pretty good condition overall and a fairly unique color (Chiffon White).
Hmm... Ridiculously low miles, though. So it's not representative of the vast majority of Sharks.
That's my car. I am now too old to drive it properly and hope one of you can
After my wife died in 2014 I decided to sell one of our SUVs and look for a fun car. This car showed up totally unannounced at the Dallas Mecum auction. It was not even shown on the Xeroxed bidding sheet for the day It just had a window sticker reading "1981 Porsche 928. 12,150 mile. No reserve. "
When I went to pick it up, a 928 owner was looking at it and told me I lived just a few miles away from Sean Ratts, who has done all the work since then using parts from nearby Roger Tyson. It has won best in class 4 out of 5 times at the 3rd Coast show since then.
Almost all of the 17,00 miles since then were on long distance trips.. If you know a 3rd Coast attendee, they can probably give you an opinion about this car. Before putting it in the auction I had Sean check it out to fix anything he found wrong. No brag; just fact. This is a great OB 928.
If you have any questions about it, happy to answer here.
I can believe it, because you can still buy a 928 for only $6k. And, depending on what you're looking for, a $6k 928 might be a great car.
You have a value in mind for your car, then why do you care that there are $6k examples out there? Pushing prices up hill just drives potential owners - and potential cool people to hang out with at Frenzy - out of the market. I want more 928s on the road, not fewer. I don't care if they're pristine $60k show cars or ugly $6k basket cases. Frankly, I'm more likely to see the $6k basket cases at Frenzy.
I care because the awful examples help spread misinformation about the model overall, which in turn can damage the value of good cars. Even here, where we don't have strangled US spec cars, you will find someone to ask something to the effect of 'they are quite slow aren't they?'. I disagree about a 6k car being a potential great one sorry, not even a good one. That is major project pricing here at least. If you are a guru and restorer then that could be quite different. Otherwise unless it is money for a running and ok shape 4.5L AT US car, I don't know how one could score a potential gem by any means.
.... Frankly, I'm more likely to see the $6k basket cases at Frenzy.
I luv ya Shawn, and you know that, but that statement is absolutely not true. Yes there are a few well loved sharks, but the vast majority are far more substantial than $6K beaters. Indeed, most of them are at the higher end in my observation.
I care because the awful examples help spread misinformation about the model overall, which in turn can damage the value of good cars. Even here, where we don't have strangled US spec cars, you will find someone to ask something to the effect of 'they are quite slow aren't they?'.
Well, they're not fast by modern standards. Who cares about the value? Unless you're a speculator, the value is in the owning, not the potential selling.
I disagree about a 6k car being a potential great one sorry, not even a good one. That is major project pricing here at least. If you are a guru and restorer then that could be quite different. Otherwise unless it is money for a running and ok shape 4.5L AT US car, I don't know how one could score a potential gem by any means.
It depends on what you're looking for out of your cars, I guess. I was very happy with my $3,500 '79 beater. I paid $4k for Stitch, and he's been driven further than most 928s are these days and was in Panorama. I paid $7.5k for my '84, and Reuben is a beast. Would any of them make you happy? I'm going to say: No. But they're great cars for me. True story: I had an absolutely pristine 951 with 60k on the clock. Garage-kept throughout its life. I paid $16k for it, because 951s were undervalued in 2009. It was so absolutely gorgeous and well-kept that I eventually got to the point where I didn't want to drive it. I sold it with 70k on it, bought a Boxster with 160k and beat it like a rented mule. I don't ever want to be that way with a car again. I will drive my cheap 928s to any place, at any time, in any weather, and park them any where. I actually have a set of snow tires for Stitch, and I put them on and use them.
Originally Posted by linderpat
I luv ya Shawn, and you know that, but that statement is absolutely not true. Yes there are a few well loved sharks, but the vast majority are far more substantial than $6K beaters. Indeed, most of them are at the higher end in my observation.
I was being hyperbolic, Ed. I think Kevin and I are the only ones who show up in sub-$6k cars. My point being that we're never going to see these high-dollar BAT cars ever again. They're going to end up in a garage somewhere. And as the prices creep north, more owners are going to decide they don't want to risk a car with the value of a small house by driving it to Frenzy.
There are a few of us - Alex and Droo come to mind, that collect these cars, but do it because they something interesting to focus on. Alex's Skittle cars, and Droo's ultra-low VINs. I don't think they particularly care what the theoretical dollar value of their cars is, they own their cars because they find them interesting. I'm pretty sure they'd rather the prices stay down, so than can afford additional interesting cars,
Last edited by Shawn Stanford; 11-01-2022 at 01:48 PM.
Paul and Rob's restored '78 5-speed on BaT. Sold in 2018 on BaT for $5K. This sale will show us all what a first class level restoration of a $5K beater is really worth. Already at $50K.
GLWTA!
Paul and Rob's restored '78 5-speed on BaT. Sold in 2018 on BaT for $5K. This sale will show us all what a first class level restoration of a $5K beater is really worth. Already at $50K.
GLWTA!
10-29-2022, 12:12 AM
I think Kevin and I are the only ones who show up in sub-$6k cars. My point being that we're never going to see these high-dollar BAT cars ever again. They're going to end up in a garage somewhere. And as the prices creep north, more owners are going to decide they don't want to risk a car with the value of a small house by driving it to Frenzy.
