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Old 01-27-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by halfmonkey
Yes, that is what I'm seeing from these pictures. Although not readily used in most street cars, I have seen them before. It's just another way of guiding more air around the wheels especially the front wheels since the wheel wells create a lot of drag and lift. Cleaning up this air not only helps with reducing lift but it also reduces drag which help with mpg. By adding that additional plastic piece to accelerate more air, it'll reduce lift even more. Again, my guess as to why this is being done is because they needed to balance the front with the additional downforce from the new swan neck rear wing that is also higher up in the airstream.

I thought the NACA ducts on the frunk were purely for the brake ducts. Since no official word has been released, it's anybody's guess right now but I suppose it could also add a little bit of downforce or remove a little bit of lift somehow. PAG and AP must have thought it was worth it to add it on what will be a very low volume car...not limited, just low volume.
Ok...wonder why they don't use them on the Clubsports since those do have the larger wing with swan neck and already got the side windows intakes.
The info on the hood is from the GT3RS launch but who know if they work differently as the front end is also different, but as mentioned brake cooling is their main purpose.
Old 01-27-2021, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
Ok...wonder why they don't use them on the Clubsports since those do have the larger wing with swan neck and already got the side windows intakes.
The info on the hood is from the GT3RS launch but who know if they work differently as the front end is also different, but as mentioned brake cooling is their main purpose.
That's a good question and would be best directed towards AP if anybody ever gets the chance to ask him a series of questions. It's possible that the CS doesn't need those because maybe they're making up for the needed front end downforce by adjusting or manipulating the front diffuser. If you go back to the video I posted earlier, AP discussed how on the GT4, if you change the angle of the rear wing, you will also need to remove something from under the front bumper to balance the car. He does mention that if you do that you will achieve more downforce at the expense of drag so with the CS, maybe that's already removed to begin with. Again, I don't know for certain but entertaining your question with some thoughts and guesses.
Old 01-27-2021, 06:40 PM
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The question I have is, will it be PDK only?
Old 01-27-2021, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RSninja
The question I have is, will it be PDK only?

99.99999%
Old 01-27-2021, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RSninja
The question I have is, will it be PDK only?
Originally Posted by jmartpr
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Agree. I would be shocked if they offered a 6MT option.
Old 01-27-2021, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Torres
So wait.....all this and it ends up being some fake renders?
yes. shows you how good they are getting. but still.. 99% there.. there is very very little mystery left.

Originally Posted by halfmonkey
That's a good question and would be best directed towards AP if anybody ever gets the chance to ask him a series of questions. It's possible that the CS doesn't need those because maybe they're making up for the needed front end downforce by adjusting or manipulating the front diffuser. If you go back to the video I posted earlier, AP discussed how on the GT4, if you change the angle of the rear wing, you will also need to remove something from under the front bumper to balance the car. He does mention that if you do that you will achieve more downforce at the expense of drag so with the CS, maybe that's already removed to begin with. Again, I don't know for certain but entertaining your question with some thoughts and guesses.
on Clubsport you can put a big splitter on the front, and lower it to the ground.. on road car you can't. so possibly this is a way to match the front downforce to the big rear wing.
also.. marketing.. makes you want the car for that cool part. i believe that is a big part of a lot of what porsche GT dept does... most cars need to look desirable and "racey" at C&C.
Old 01-27-2021, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenmaniac
apparently the earlier spy shots were also renders
Dang. Had us all going crazy. They're really good "renders" though.
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Old 01-27-2021, 07:18 PM
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Well, guys.. I know this may sound silly.. but any chance a track focused car like this will be available w/ 18 way seats?
Even with that available too uncomfortable to drive around town?
Old 01-27-2021, 09:04 PM
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Apparently it is a render according to pistonheads. But it'll probably look exactly like that!
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SK991.2
Well, guys.. I know this may sound silly.. but any chance a track focused car like this will be available w/ 18 way seats?
Even with that available too uncomfortable to drive around town?
yes
it will likely be an option
but you will be roundly booed on rennlist if you select tht option
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Torres
So wait.....all this and it ends up being some fake renders?
who knows..if the spyshots were real and the photographer is trying to save himself from porsche media folks?
Old 01-28-2021, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SK991.2
Well, guys.. I know this may sound silly.. but any chance a track focused car like this will be available w/ 18 way seats?
Even with that available too uncomfortable to drive around town?
Originally Posted by JSF101
yes
it will likely be an option
but you will be roundly booed on rennlist if you select tht option
My guess is that the bucket seats will be standard and you'll be able to option free 18-way seats like on the GT3RS. That beig said, why get sofa seats for a more track focused GT4?
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Old 01-28-2021, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
My guess is that the bucket seats will be standard and you'll be able to option free 18-way seats like on the GT3RS. That beig said, why get sofa seats for a more track focused GT4?
Same reason some people spec them on the GT3 RS. Because they’re going to drive them on the street.
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
Ok...wonder why they don't use them on the Clubsports since those do have the larger wing with swan neck and already got the side windows intakes.
The 718 clubsports were not delivered with the side window intakes, they were a later (expensive) "upgrade". The side window intakes don't necessarily increase power so much as reduce iat. IAT were higher on the 718cs vs 981cs potentially because the new front bumper design of the 718 added the side air curtains basically funneling hot post rad air to the side intakes (just my wag).
The new fatter air curtain venting in the GT4rs mules are likely a more recent design since the original CS cars were designed. Unlike the CS cars where the side window intakes are an option, every GT4rs will have them and maybe that allows the design team to be more aggressive with the air flow along the side of the car without having to worry about aits for cars that may not have the side window intakes. Total speculation of course, maybe they just think they look cool

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Old 01-28-2021, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Same reason some people spec them on the GT3 RS. Because they’re going to drive them on the street.
Not like the bucket seats are torture devices, they are very comfortable and can be driven around town as well.
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