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Old 08-09-2022, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
La salsa secreta esta lista hoy! The road car is the same as the race car. The flash exists. Exhaust options exhaust. For a second there i thought you were snooping around about the manual GT4RS project!
We need to talk so I get up to speed on the developments. Mine is due late October.......Manual 4RS? Don't say that too loud around here
Old 08-09-2022, 07:27 PM
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Manual 4RS?!?!?!
Old 08-09-2022, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jevi Javi
Manual 4RS?!?!?!
You know it’s coming!!
Old 08-09-2022, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by raymort
You know it’s coming!!

If anyone can do the conversion it's John and the team at BGB...they did the conversion on a 991.1 GT3RS and everything was like OEM, perfect!
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Old 08-10-2022, 03:50 AM
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Hope they can also change to five lug wheels.
Old 08-10-2022, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
If anyone can do the conversion it's John and the team at BGB...they did the conversion on a 991.1 GT3RS and everything was like OEM, perfect!
n.
I’m not saying BGB cannot put a manual in a GT4 RS, but this is a completely different situation. In the case of the 991 GT3 RS, Porsche chose not to offer an existing manual gearbox for the engine and chassis combo and BGB reversed that decision. For the GT4 RS, there is no such gearbox…
Old 08-10-2022, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I’m not saying BGB cannot put a manual in a GT4 RS, but this is a completely different situation. In the case of the 991 GT3 RS, Porsche chose not to offer an existing manual gearbox for the engine and chassis combo and BGB reversed that decision. For the GT4 RS, there is no such gearbox…
@GrantG is right; it cannot be done. But...hold my coffee...i got an idea....i'll be right back!
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Old 08-10-2022, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I’m not saying BGB cannot put a manual in a GT4 RS, but this is a completely different situation. In the case of the 991 GT3 RS, Porsche chose not to offer an existing manual gearbox for the engine and chassis combo and BGB reversed that decision. For the GT4 RS, there is no such gearbox…

True....modified Manual from the GT4?
They have a close relationship with GT gears so gearing and gear life can be address that way (Cost not being a problem of course).
Can the rest of the transmission handle 9K rpm? I don't know....we are just fantasizing with this and I prefer the PDK on this one.
Old 08-10-2022, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
@GrantG is right; it cannot be done. But...hold my coffee...i got an idea....i'll be right back!

oh oh...when those ideas pop.......
Old 08-10-2022, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jmartpr
True....modified Manual from the GT4?
They have a close relationship with GT gears so gearing and gear life can be address that way (Cost not being a problem of course).
Can the rest of the transmission handle 9K rpm? I don't know....we are just fantasizing with this and I prefer the PDK on this one.
Yes, gearing would have to be severely altered (but even a final drive might be enough). The gearbox’s limitation is not the revs (aside from the need to lower the gear ratios), it’s the torque. But I guess an aftermarket company is not limited to the gearbox manufacturer’s rating for the box (310 ft-lbs) in the way that Porsche is, and I am aware that previous builds have used the box with well over the 4RS’s torque output…
Old 08-11-2022, 04:38 PM
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Old 08-11-2022, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Irfan
How much extra you all are paying over sticker for the RS? They are asking 25K over for my build.
And on June 22, 2022 I thought I was getting a good deal at $35K over MSRP with only one previous Porsche bought at the dealer, 10 years ago, until I saw that Rooster17 got his at MSRP with no previous purchase history. So ADM is coming down. My next best deal was $85K over at the time I decided on $35k OVER msrp. there were no stipulations on how I had to spec my build and no trade in required. My dealer had no allocation and did not think they would ever get one. The sales manager was searching and found another dealer who wanted an allocation for a 992 4SGTS which my dealer had. My dealer also had to give up a Cayanne allocation to get my GT4RS allocation which is a January allocation. My car should be delivered to dealer in mid Feb 2023. My MSRP is $163800 after adding in the $1300 gas guzzler tax that the configuator does not show.
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Old 08-11-2022, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by very green R
And on June 22, 2022 I thought I was getting a good deal at $35K over MSRP with only one previous Porsche bought at the dealer, 10 years ago, until I saw that Rooster17 got his at MSRP with no previous purchase history. So ADM is coming down. My next best deal was $85K over at the time I decided on $35k OVER msrp. there were no stipulations on how I had to spec my build and no trade in required. My dealer had no allocation and did not think they would ever get one. The sales manager was searching and found another dealer who wanted an allocation for a 992 4SGTS which my dealer had. My dealer also had to give up a Cayanne allocation to get my GT4RS allocation which is a January allocation. My car should be delivered to dealer in mid Feb 2023. My MSRP is $163800 after adding in the $1300 gas guzzler tax that the configuator does not show.
In the current 4RS climate I’d say you did well! As odd as that is to say. Play your cards right and you’ll double or triple that ADM if you ever decide to sell. I’m not kidding. I’ve done it.
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Old 08-12-2022, 11:34 AM
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Another report that the ride is "comfortable", even in sport mode (@ ~13:30):

Old 08-12-2022, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Adair
In the current 4RS climate I’d say you did well! As odd as that is to say. Play your cards right and you’ll double or triple that ADM if you ever decide to sell. I’m not kidding. I’ve done it.
$35k over MSRP~!?!? thats awesome! I wish that is where I landed. instead, I am at $80k.
does anyone else kinda feel weird about that now? I mean, I assume many of us have$75-100k over and waiting for our cars to get built and delivered. however with the market cooling off and the ADMs clearly coming down, I am starting to have an issue paying so much for the car. what do you all think? is it still worth it? do I even have any options at this point?

I guess another way to think about it is that the value of the car is probably less the day I buy it then what I will end up spending. hard pill to swallow.
IF you are going to respond with, "pass on it and give me your allocation hahahah" please, save it. looking for a real conversation around it.


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