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Old 08-12-2022, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmist27
$35k over MSRP~!?!? thats awesome! I wish that is where I landed. instead, I am at $80k.
I guess another way to think about it is that the value of the car is probably less the day I buy it then what I will end up spending. hard pill to swallow.
Why is this abnormal? It's a car: why would you expect it to be worth more than you buy it for?
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Old 08-12-2022, 12:01 PM
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Front Axle Lift: To Get or Not to Get is the question?

My goal with my build is to make the car as light, simple, and low cost as possible. But, now I am wondering if I should pay the $3k to get the Front Axle Lift as a necessary option. I don't see the 1" lift as substaintially improving my angle of attact still making most driveways a managed process anyway. I will not need the lift loading onto the trailer as I am a Futura trailer dealer and it will easily drive up on a Futura trailer without the lift. But, my real concern is will not getting it make my car a white elephant? That it is a must get option like LWB seats? My build locks soon. What say you?
Old 08-12-2022, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by matttheboatman
Front Axle Lift: To Get or Not to Get is the question?

My goal with my build is to make the car as light, simple, and low cost as possible. But, now I am wondering if I should pay the $3k to get the Front Axle Lift as a necessary option. I don't see the 1" lift as substaintially improving my angle of attact still making most driveways a managed process anyway. I will not need the lift loading onto the trailer as I am a Futura trailer dealer and it will easily drive up on a Futura trailer without the lift. But, my real concern is will not getting it make my car a white elephant? That it is a must get option like LWB seats? My build locks soon. What say you?
I think you may regret not getting it. I think PAG made this an option on this car for a reason. While the GT4 may not have needed it, I suspect with the extended splitter and how people may want to lower the car a tad, that 1” will be huge.

If it’s not needed, it won’t be used much and shouldn’t be a mechanical issue. Also, the added weight is only around 10 lbs.
Old 08-12-2022, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ToasterThief
Why is this abnormal? It's a car: why would you expect it to be worth more than you buy it for?
For one thing, you are missing the point.
Secondly, a hard to get Porsche should be worth at least what you paid for it the day you buy it. to someone. that doesnt mean that is my expectation on all cars. this isnt a "normal" car. values fluctuate for sure... but I would hate to pay $80k over the actual value the day I buy it. the point of ADM is to "correct" for market value. at least their explanation. but if the market has changed, shouldnt the ADM change as well?
My guess is no since we all signed something. but just kinda sucks.
Old 08-12-2022, 12:15 PM
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FAL is the #1 "wish I had ordered that" option for the GT3 and variants, I would think some carry over to GT4/RS. It's a make or break for a lot of buyers.

Originally Posted by matttheboatman
Front Axle Lift: To Get or Not to Get is the question?

My goal with my build is to make the car as light, simple, and low cost as possible. But, now I am wondering if I should pay the $3k to get the Front Axle Lift as a necessary option. I don't see the 1" lift as substaintially improving my angle of attact still making most driveways a managed process anyway. I will not need the lift loading onto the trailer as I am a Futura trailer dealer and it will easily drive up on a Futura trailer without the lift. But, my real concern is will not getting it make my car a white elephant? That it is a must get option like LWB seats? My build locks soon. What say you?
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Old 08-12-2022, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cscrogham
FAL is the #1 "wish I had ordered that" option for the GT3 and variants, I would think some carry over to GT4/RS. It's a make or break for a lot of buyers.
I have it on my 992 GT3 and would order it again for sure.
Old 08-12-2022, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by matttheboatman
Front Axle Lift: To Get or Not to Get is the question?

My goal with my build is to make the car as light, simple, and low cost as possible. But, now I am wondering if I should pay the $3k to get the Front Axle Lift as a necessary option. I don't see the 1" lift as substaintially improving my angle of attact still making most driveways a managed process anyway. I will not need the lift loading onto the trailer as I am a Futura trailer dealer and it will easily drive up on a Futura trailer without the lift. But, my real concern is will not getting it make my car a white elephant? That it is a must get option like LWB seats? My build locks soon. What say you?
i agree with your philosophy of light and simple. But for my GT4RS I ordered with the front lift because I drive on actual roads for long distances and have to negotiate some driveways at motels and restaurants and the cost and added weight of the front end lift is worth it to me to avoid scrapping. Remember as others have pointed out earlier on this forum that the front lift has to be lowered in some cases once the front has cleared to avoid damage to the rear diffuser..
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Old 08-12-2022, 12:53 PM
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V200 February 23 delivery +25k

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Old 08-12-2022, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by matttheboatman
Front Axle Lift: To Get or Not to Get is the question?

My goal with my build is to make the car as light, simple, and low cost as possible. But, now I am wondering if I should pay the $3k to get the Front Axle Lift as a necessary option. I don't see the 1" lift as substaintially improving my angle of attact still making most driveways a managed process anyway. I will not need the lift loading onto the trailer as I am a Futura trailer dealer and it will easily drive up on a Futura trailer without the lift. But, my real concern is will not getting it make my car a white elephant? That it is a must get option like LWB seats? My build locks soon. What say you?
That's easy. Once you get the car, take out the passenger seat and sell it. Should also strip out the whole car down to bare metal also. That will be some major weight savings.

You won't have an extra passenger weighting down the car, and quite a few pounds off the car when you are driving it. Also completely empty your bowel and bladder before getting into the car.

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Old 08-12-2022, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cscrogham
FAL is the #1 "wish I had ordered that" option for the GT3 and variants, I would think some carry over to GT4/RS. It's a make or break for a lot of buyers.
I always spec it and it always prevents the front splitter from getting damaged. I do however put 6K - 10K mileage on my cars in two years before I move on. I would recommend spec FAL if you plan to sell the car.
Old 08-12-2022, 03:23 PM
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incase you missed this. only thing is I am not sure I believe them when they describe the ride of the 4RS. I mean, they are bouncing around like basket ***** lol

Old 08-12-2022, 04:35 PM
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They drive in the hard setting...
Old 08-12-2022, 09:39 PM
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Yes they do. You can see the light on while they are driving on those already bumpy roads?? I am sure it would drive even better in the non sport shock mode.
Old 08-12-2022, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
That's easy. Once you get the car, take out the passenger seat and sell it. Should also strip out the whole car down to bare metal also. That will be some major weight savings.

You won't have an extra passenger weighting down the car, and quite a few pounds off the car when you are driving it. Also completely empty your bowel and bladder before getting into the car.
Old 08-13-2022, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmist27
$35k over MSRP~!?!? thats awesome! I wish that is where I landed. instead, I am at $80k.
does anyone else kinda feel weird about that now? I mean, I assume many of us have$75-100k over and waiting for our cars to get built and delivered. however with the market cooling off and the ADMs clearly coming down, I am starting to have an issue paying so much for the car. what do you all think? is it still worth it? do I even have any options at this point?

I guess another way to think about it is that the value of the car is probably less the day I buy it then what I will end up spending. hard pill to swallow.
IF you are going to respond with, "pass on it and give me your allocation hahahah" please, save it. looking for a real conversation around it.
Honestly, I would walk away from your order if I were you if you can get the deposit refunded. Not sure if if a GT4RS will be available at MSRP before the end of production but I can guarantee that you'll be able to get an allocation at some point for $25k-$50k over without a problem.


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