Originally Posted by Jim Rockford

I have a problem with this and I would think PCNA might as well no? If they had 10 walk on deposits then fine but if a dealer is gaming the system to hoard inventory when there's people out there that legitimately have a car on order and these 10 ghost orders are clogging the pipeline for real buyers, this is BS.

Originally Posted by Jim Rockford

I have a problem with this and I would think PCNA might as well no? If they had 10 walk on deposits then fine but if a dealer is gaming the system to hoard inventory when there's people out there that legitimately have a car on order and these 10 ghost orders are clogging the pipeline for real buyers, this is BS.

Originally Posted by Archimedes

My guess is that these were cars that were speccd by the dealer in collaboration with some of their VIP customers, so they could get builds in using customer names, though they knew there was a good chance the VIP was not going to take the car and they would have to take them into inventory. I can't believe that 10 VIPS all walked away from their cars, but ya never know. That said, I don't have a problem with it if this is what they did. Dealers have the right to build cars for floor inventory and take the risk if they want. I've dealt with PNH twice in the past and they were a great dealer to work with.

Originally Posted by Westcoast

Hmmm, the attached schedule doesn't show a RORO bound for Halifax leaving on the 27th (see attached).

Of course things could be changing daily considering the world situation...

Originally Posted by Manoverpdk

If someone can quickly share some pertinent information on deposits?
My dealer is requesting a non-refundable deposit of $10k on a Spyder, if I cancel, after the “order is placed with PCNA”.
If I cancel before the order is placed, the deposit is refundable.
Is this the norm? Seems a bit high.

Originally Posted by Manoverpdk

If someone can quickly share some pertinent information on deposits?
My dealer is requesting a non-refundable deposit of $10k on a Spyder, if I cancel, after the “order is placed with PCNA”.
If I cancel before the order is placed, the deposit is refundable.
Is this the norm? Seems a bit high.

Originally Posted by Flacht6MT

That's abusive, nobody is asked for non-refundable deposits, walk away. You have the right to cancel the order anytime you want. For example, I put down $1k only, and it's fully refundable anytime, no questions asked.

Originally Posted by Flacht6MT

That's abusive, nobody is asked for non-refundable deposits, walk away. You have the right to cancel the order anytime you want. For example, I put down $1k only, and it's fully refundable anytime, no questions asked.

Originally Posted by Manoverpdk

Are you saying refundable even after the order is placed or arrives stateside?

Originally Posted by CDACH

Don't do it. I put $2,500 down for a Spyder, fully refundable. There are plenty of good dealers around, just get on the phone!

Originally Posted by Flacht6MT

Up to the point you sign the paperwork, all bets are off. It's basically illegal in most places for them to do what they're trying to do to you.

Quite frankly, even if they flex after the fact, I'd walk away. Who knows what other shenanigans they have planned before they hand you the car.

Originally Posted by Flacht6MT

That's abusive, nobody is asked for non-refundable deposits, walk away. You have the right to cancel the order anytime you want. For example, I put down $1k only, and it's fully refundable anytime, no questions asked.

Originally Posted by Archimedes

Unfortunately, not true. It depends on State law. Here in California, it's refundable right up to purchase. Other states, once the order is placed it can be non-refundable.

I just put a $10k deposit down out of State, non-refundable after build lock date, which I'm totally fine with.