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Old 04-21-2020, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
They're all nice builds, so I'll guess they're not going to have much trouble selling them. The Gentian blue car is very high spec though; gonna take the right buyer.
Where can you see the builds?
Old 04-21-2020, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Where can you see the builds?
Submit your Porsche VIP identification to your sales rep. That person will then submit two factor authentication to the dealer principal, who will then confirm with PCNA. PCNA will then make a request to PAG for access. INTERPOL will then verify your identity and pass that information along to PAG. PAG will communicate their judgment to PCNA. PCNA will verify with the FBI and give access to dealer principal. Dealer principal then has the discretion to authorize your sales rep to securely communicate the information. However, access to this information will expire within 30 minutes once granted.
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk2
Submit your Porsche VIP identification to your sales rep. That person will then submit two factor authentication to the dealer principal, who will then confirm with PCNA. PCNA will then make a request to PAG for access. INTERPOL will then verify your identity and pass that information along to PAG. PAG will communicate their judgment to PCNA. PCNA will verify with the FBI and give access to dealer principal. Dealer principal then has the discretion to authorize your sales rep to securely communicate the information. However, access to this information will expire within 30 minutes once granted.
Like your sense of humor.
Old 04-21-2020, 09:45 PM
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What sense of humor? Protocol is protocol.
Old 04-21-2020, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Where can you see the builds?
I am surprised that they are not on the dealer website, it is much easier to sell something that is actually advertised...
Old 04-21-2020, 10:06 PM
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I am surprised that they are not on the dealer website, it is much easier to sell something that is actually advertised...
First GT-cars are mega VIP cars. This is an unusual opportunity to get access to these cars. That is one of the reasons why they are being discussed here and not broadcasted.
Old 04-21-2020, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
I am surprised that they are not on the dealer website, it is much easier to sell something that is actually advertised...
That comes later. First they'll try to sell them at MSRP as a "hush-hush" special deal for 'special' people. When/if that fails, they'll post them online for all the 'non-special' people to see but that will imply some desperation and willingness to negotiate -- also may not be welcomed by other dealers who are still in their "hush-hush" phase to sell theirs as that will weaken their bargaining power and force them to offer theirs openly too. This would lead to an avalanche of apparent supply -- no bueno (for them). Game theory...

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Old 04-21-2020, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
Where can you see the builds?
John Wright emailed them to me. If you reach out to him on here, he’ll send them to you.

PNH is a great dealer to work with.
Old 04-22-2020, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
John Wright emailed them to me. If you reach out to him on here, he’ll send them to you.

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1. John Wright has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages...
What was your contact method Archimedes?
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Originally Posted by dmk2
I was fortunate enough to be offered a number of cars that are on the ground now, but have opted to wait for my allocated and specified GT4.

John Wright at Porsche of North Houston is a consummate professional and was able to get me a build slot.

He has cars available NOW and can be reached at:

JWright@porscheofnorthhouston.com

Happy hunting!
This, I believe, is his email at his store.
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Originally Posted by dmk2
First GT-cars are mega VIP cars. This is an unusual opportunity to get access to these cars. That is one of the reasons why they are being discussed here and not broadcasted.
I was going to ask if you were making this up, you know, just a little theatrical...

Originally Posted by hf1
That comes later. First they'll try to sell them at MSRP as a "hush-hush" special deal for 'special' people. When/if that fails, they'll post them online for all the 'non-special' people to see but that will imply some desperation and willingness to negotiate -- also may not be welcomed by other dealers who are still in their "hush-hush" phase to sell theirs as that will weaken their bargaining power and force them to offer theirs openly too. This would lead to an avalanche of apparent supply -- no bueno (for them). Game theory...
Then I read this and you guys are serious, on one hand I get it, on the other it is a bit much!

Where I live, possibly precipitated by the low number of dealers and smaller market, MSRP is the general rule, build it on the configurator and that is the price assuming of course you can get one of the allocations.
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This, I believe, is his email at his store.
Yup. Actually a Rennlister sent me the first few and then John emailed me one more. That silver one was not in the builds I saw though.
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
I was going to ask if you were making this up, you know, just a little theatrical...

Then I read this and you guys are serious, on one hand I get it, on the other it is a bit much!

Where I live, possibly precipitated by the low number of dealers and smaller market, MSRP is the general rule, build it on the configurator and that is the price assuming of course you can get one of the allocations.
My guess is that these were cars that were speccd by the dealer in collaboration with some of their VIP customers, so they could get builds in using customer names, though they knew there was a good chance the VIP was not going to take the car and they would have to take them into inventory. I can't believe that 10 VIPS all walked away from their cars, but ya never know. That said, I don't have a problem with it if this is what they did. Dealers have the right to build cars for floor inventory and take the risk if they want. I've dealt with PNH twice in the past and they were a great dealer to work with.
Old 04-22-2020, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
My guess is that these were cars that were speccd by the dealer in collaboration with some of their VIP customers, so they could get builds in using customer names, though they knew there was a good chance the VIP was not going to take the car and they would have to take them into inventory. I can't believe that 10 VIPS all walked away from their cars, but ya never know. That said, I don't have a problem with it if this is what they did. Dealers have the right to build cars for floor inventory and take the risk if they want. I've dealt with PNH twice in the past and they were a great dealer to work with.
BINGO!

No theatrics.
Old 04-22-2020, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
That said, I don't have a problem with it if this is what they did. Dealers have the right to build cars for floor inventory and take the risk if they want. I've dealt with PNH twice in the past and they were a great dealer to work with.
I have a problem with this and I would think PCNA might as well no? If they had 10 walk on deposits then fine but if a dealer is gaming the system to hoard inventory when there's people out there that legitimately have a car on order and these 10 ghost orders are clogging the pipeline for real buyers, this is BS.


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