kiwi 911

WTF??

Whatever tickles your fancy Macca (but you have me a little scared now).

Macca

You are just tall enough not to need to be scared Buba. But the heels I guess add some security. Wear in good health mate ;-)

kiwi 911

almost spat my coffee onto my lap top.............

Stop it Macca - this is hurting..........

kiwi 911

Cars with no miles still need the engine servicing, oils and rubbers replaced.

They are just as expensive to maintain as cars that are used due to perishables.

The big risk is seizing.

If you watch Chasing Classic cars all those barn finds always need loads of recommissioning works.

Macca

Agreed. A 20 year old 993 with delivery miles that has had no periodic running for lubrication of seals etc would need a complete overhaul before it was worthy to tax on a back road. However given its probably asking 250k USD I'm sure that will be of no concern for the next owner.....

Need to find Daves old 993 1997 with variorum manual and no sunroof (and PTS colour). It had 37k km on it and must be one of the lowest, most desirable and original 993c2 in the Southern Hemisphere now....

996tnz

Cool! RSGs best answer to Indiana Jones! Can just imagine bounty-hunting toddlers all over the islands still toting backpacks full of bricks...

Easy to photograph but hard to keep alive and breeding I suspect?

John McM

Interesting thread on the 2k cup forum about Gull Force 10 fuel use in Hondas. Apparently it causes a number of problems, including coking and early detonation. I'll put a note on our race cars not to refuel at Gull.

It makes me wonder what impact it has on 911s, particularly the older ones. Maybe we should make the run to Mercer to fill up on normal 98?

Macca

Ethanol blended fuels can cause alot of piston coking on the piston crowns of modern DFI engines it has been found. Higher than 10/15 blend would be a problem with older engines not using Viton type gaskets and seals according to flat 6 engine builders. Generally speaking I stay away from Gull fuel full stop however its very conveniently located at the HD track so with the GT3 (which likes to drink) I inevitably fill up mid day from those pumps...

996tnz

I hate ethanol in any car that's not designed and tuned for it. Have previously posted on 2KCup about it potentially softening the fuel seals and diaphragms of older cars unless they are ethanol approved. Some more related discussion here:

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/5-...e-ethanol.html

VTiRs are NZ models with what I understand is a non upwards-adaptive factory tune for 95 so they should be slower on even normal 98, nevermind e10.

When tuned for it, cars can develop more power on higher octane and ethanol blends (especially on the likes of e85) but as the specific energy of ethanol is lower than that of petrol, fuel consumption goes up disproportionately - to the point that some fit larger tanks for e85.

My car runs 98 and I spent quite a bit of time planning to avoid e10 fuel before Targa. Wasn't worth running with 40L of flammable filled jerrycans up front though so I couldn't avoid one fill at Whitianga. At Hampton I drive the Turbo down to Mercer unless I have fuel with me.

There are aftermarket fuel system upgrade kits for the 996T to make it ethanol friendly so maybe also for the older cars?

John McM

Walter, so we should preferably fill with 95?

BTW: What's the go with the Rallye Cross? Are you entered? Can there be more than one driver i.e. You and Paul?

996tnz

I will be entering soon but will speak with Ron first to confirm he's still happy to accommodate shared drivers (previously told me so). Going to wait another day or two before doing that though, so I can fulfil my offer to post a related thread on 2KCup. Just aware that Manfield is a hell of a way to go for a race meet and 2K are still working to get the entries up so not keen to dilute focus from that before the entries close tomorrow.

On that subject, I haven't heard anything back from the team yet. Anyone else up for Manfield? Will text around...

John McM

I suspect the interest for Manfield is limited. BB2 is ready if someone does take it on. Otherwise the next run is the BBQ on 19/3. I will try to get to that with BB2.

996tnz

On paper, yes, as a factory tuned engine VTiR engine is reportedly not set up to reap the benefit of slower burning fuel. Would be nice to confirm on track or dyno but that thread suggested a 7hp loss just going from normal 98 to Force10.

Didn't worry about it when we were just doing comparative runs in BB as it kept things even but it would be interesting to see how much we can close the gap to the Si Integras in 2K. Gutting their cats and dropping the Aircon compressor out of BB2 would help there too of course. Both mods 2K approved last season, and - I believe - this season too. Apparently half-inch wider rims (6.5 vs 6) are also OK on Integras (per Simon who seems to be the technical lead on Integra compliance), but I'm not sure how many cars are running them.

Unless a stock VTiR has an engine problem, with the ECU pulling timing to avoid knock, there should be no benefit and likely some disadvantage in running 98. Some more info:

http://www.whatcouldbegreener.com/14...will-cost-you/

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/gas...ane-myths.html

The 10.6:1 compression 180hp Si Integras are more likely to benefit from 98 than our 10.0:1 170hp VTiRs, but even those were apparently only tuned for 96 Octane Jap premium at the time.

http://www.civicforums.com/forums/22...fications.html

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JDM B18C
SiR/GSR
VTEC
Found in:
93-95 JDM Honda Integra Si-Vtec (DB8, DC2 round lights)
95-98 JDM Honda Integra SiR/SiR II (DB8, DC2)
98-99 JDM Honda Integra SiR-G (DB8, DC2)

Identification: Black valve cover with dual runner intake manifold
Red Line: 8100 rpm
Rev-Limit: 8484 rpm- 8550 rpm (*For some only, most newer model SIR/SIR-G cut off at 8254rpm)
Power: 132.39 kW (180 PS; 178 bhp) @ 7200 rpm & 128 ft·lbf (174 N·m) @ 6200 rpm
Displacement: 1,797 cc (109.7 cu in)
Compression: 10.6:1
Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
Stroke: 87.2 mm (3.4 in)
ECU code: P72
VTEC Engagement @ 4500 rpm
Transmission S80 (with optional LSD)

Highlights of B18C Spec R compared to standard B18C1 GSR and B18C4 VTi
1. Camshaft - Wide-angled, high-lift, high-duration, high-durability camshaft
2. Exhaust Valve Spring - High-lift, dual-layered spring
3. Spark plug - High-heat-type #7 platinum plug
4. Engine Stiffener - Aluminum die-cast, high-durability, one-piece type
5. Crankshaft - Full-counterweight, 8-weight, high-output, custom crankshaft
6. Connecting Rod - Custom TypeR rod, high-durability, lightened
7. Pistons - High-compression, low-friction, custom pistons
8. Inlet Valves - Lightened inlet valves
9. Intake Manifold - Custom tuning, single-port type.
10. Throttle Body - 62 mm (2.4 in) wide-mouth throttle body.
11. Inlet Valve Springs - High-lift, flat-surfaced, dual-layered spring
12. Port Buffing done by hand. For 98 Spec port buffing is done by machine
13. Fastening of Connecting Rod done with micrometer.
14. 98 Spec engine has stainless steel 4-1 exhaust manifold to increase torque
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USDM B18C1
VTEC
Found in:
1994-2001 USDM Integra GS-R (DC2/DB8)

Displacement: 1,797 cc (109.7 cu in)
Compression: 10.0:1
Bore: 81 mm (3.2 in)
Stroke: 87.2 mm (3.4 in)
Rod Length: 137.9 mm (5.4 in)
Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.58
Power: 170 hp (127 kW) @ 7600 rpm
Torque: 128 lb·ft (174 N·m) @ 6200 rpm
Redline: 8100 rpm (Fuel cut-off @ 8200 rpm)
VTEC Engagement @ 4,800 rpm
Transmission: Y80(No LSD) 5-Speed Manual Transaxle

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Here endeth the Honda...

kiwi 911

The Ellerslie Car Show - PCNZ Car display is shaping up nicely.

The focus of this years display is to show 4-6 nice examples from each decade or erea (356's - early 911&914 - 70-80's 911/928/924 - 90's 964/993 and modern cars from 996 on.

The factory museum cars will be there too.

We are looking to show cars that range in value from $5K to $1.5M, and are including show cars, race cars, modified cars and cars with 'partina' to show how PCNZ members are a diverse lot and use their cars.

We are looking to erect an easy up in the centre with chairs, cold refreshments and invite members to bring a picnic and socialise.

A few of the RSG gang have been tapped on the shoulder and are kindly displaying their cars.

Should be a good event. - 14 Feb 2016.

John McM

Thanks, I'll drop the air con compressor out of BB2. My goal this year is to run a 1.23.xx in either of our cars. That's a big ask given 1.24.97 is my fasted in BB2, but it will keep me focused.