Any Rennlisters from New Zealand?
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We don't see enough Turbos on here - very cool to see some of them being returned to former glory.
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For some reason I cant publish videos to youtube from my iphone but I published a couple of Lola (1990 964 C2)on the rennsport gruppe group on facebook. Newbies who are on FB should also request to join that group :-)
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Yes good question.
Cold hard facts follow and it may not be pretty;
993 varioram manual, nz new, 25000k's, Fantastic and fast. Love hate relationship - too good to meddle with and too much cash tied up at the time for me. Looking back, it was an old car trying to act like a new one. The inside was classic 911 but cluttered with airbags, center consoles and other stuff. I loved the 993 look and still do but I missed looking down the tunnels to the road. For a first 911 it was a really good start point.
964 manual coupe. Ex Matt. It was for sale and with that kit I had to own it. I was not a 964 fan but I swung on that. Had the classic shape but bloated bumpers not well balanced by the narrow body. Turbo a different story. Was a bit more authentic but always felt a bit heavy. I did like it though and probably moved it on a bit early.
The SC is getting closer to what I always envisioned a 911 should be. I think the parts I like most about it is that it is quite cheap, I can take it apart and put it back together and it drives so smoothly. 915 boxes get a bad rap but give me one over a G50 any day because the point of an old 911 is not to have things smoothed out for you. And I love the look.
I can only imagine the 911T will be even closer to the real experience. That said I've driven a few early cars and they can be a bit disappointing in terms of power, seating, and general sortedness not being up to scratch. The recipe for the T is to overcome these things but still be old.
The interesting part is that the SC is about a third the value of the T but it could be just as good at delivering the 911 experience.
On the last couple of Doug runs I was laughing out loud while trying to keep up because it was all arms and legs and a lot of noise. Dougie and Jake were probably laxing back with music and air....
A GT3RS obviously has a lot of appeal but it delivers a different sort of experience which you could balance out with an oldie.
Cold hard facts follow and it may not be pretty;
993 varioram manual, nz new, 25000k's, Fantastic and fast. Love hate relationship - too good to meddle with and too much cash tied up at the time for me. Looking back, it was an old car trying to act like a new one. The inside was classic 911 but cluttered with airbags, center consoles and other stuff. I loved the 993 look and still do but I missed looking down the tunnels to the road. For a first 911 it was a really good start point.
964 manual coupe. Ex Matt. It was for sale and with that kit I had to own it. I was not a 964 fan but I swung on that. Had the classic shape but bloated bumpers not well balanced by the narrow body. Turbo a different story. Was a bit more authentic but always felt a bit heavy. I did like it though and probably moved it on a bit early.
The SC is getting closer to what I always envisioned a 911 should be. I think the parts I like most about it is that it is quite cheap, I can take it apart and put it back together and it drives so smoothly. 915 boxes get a bad rap but give me one over a G50 any day because the point of an old 911 is not to have things smoothed out for you. And I love the look.
I can only imagine the 911T will be even closer to the real experience. That said I've driven a few early cars and they can be a bit disappointing in terms of power, seating, and general sortedness not being up to scratch. The recipe for the T is to overcome these things but still be old.
The interesting part is that the SC is about a third the value of the T but it could be just as good at delivering the 911 experience.
On the last couple of Doug runs I was laughing out loud while trying to keep up because it was all arms and legs and a lot of noise. Dougie and Jake were probably laxing back with music and air....
A GT3RS obviously has a lot of appeal but it delivers a different sort of experience which you could balance out with an oldie.
Cup car engine into a '69 912...
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Thanks David , that's a really good sum up of your thoughts ,
I do have to bear in mind that I live in Palmy , so most runs with the Porsche guys is a fair distance , I like the early car feel , having had a 356 B , but I want to be able to feel I can get to Wellington and back with out feeling it's going to break down , or just keep the new car for those long trips may be the trick .
I will have to jump in and see what suits me , that's the fun in this game .
I do have to bear in mind that I live in Palmy , so most runs with the Porsche guys is a fair distance , I like the early car feel , having had a 356 B , but I want to be able to feel I can get to Wellington and back with out feeling it's going to break down , or just keep the new car for those long trips may be the trick .
I will have to jump in and see what suits me , that's the fun in this game .
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Yeah, it will be a track rat for sure but I'll be doing it in style....
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Sweet, it's a 944 invasion today! What are you planning to do to it?
Jake, I'll take you up on a coffee/beer some time. Maybe when the turbo is back on the road?
Dave, I'm enjoying watching you straighten up the SC. An SC or 3.2 would be an ideal upgrade from the 944 in a few years provided they don't appreciate the way the 911s before and after them are going.
Jake, I'll take you up on a coffee/beer some time. Maybe when the turbo is back on the road?
Dave, I'm enjoying watching you straighten up the SC. An SC or 3.2 would be an ideal upgrade from the 944 in a few years provided they don't appreciate the way the 911s before and after them are going.
Who knows where the values are going. For good cars, Would $50k for an SC or $70k for a 3.2 be out of the question? Probably. At $40 and $60 they would sell all day right now. Sure we have seen a couple of 3.2's in the late thirties but they both had niggly things that stop them short.
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Anyone have a ballpark value of a 77 2.7 carrera? It was a tourist delivery, done about 31 miles. Don't think I've seen one advertised round nz.....
Obviously going be condition dependent, just wondering if they're more or less desirable than the later 3.2?
Obviously going be condition dependent, just wondering if they're more or less desirable than the later 3.2?
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