THe house that Alonso built :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leq4WZ20Bi4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JWTVmzmerg

He can feel the love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urzSmT1SXiE

RD's house of Horror :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8iE06f6UTQ

I want Alonso house 1 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukMlgxa0LmA

I want Alonso House 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1JDFuTe94E

I want Alonso House 3 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Liw_EEiKVOE

Where Alonso is really going :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJmfd8UKK7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ToiGlFtr4

07 in a nut Shell, RD crys :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgGJoseI2L4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYoXr77S3E8&NR=1

It has been said by RD's previous drivers that he is not the same person after you sign the contract to drive for Mclaren , we have found the proof :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRqWcpG-wdU

The Michael Moore Nominated Version :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGAcEHzwayI

Bernie's version , the way he wished it was :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Ypa42W9b8

In the end , 1 is still the pretender , the others WDC , cheers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpK2t3gh2Co

 

I'm not living in anyone else's world, just stating a fact. I'll give just one example: if Alonso wasn't driven to hold up Hamilton in the pit lane, he would have started at least in 2nd position and if he scored merely 2 additional points, he would be WDC as we speak. This is just one example, more could be had. I'm not saying Hamilton couldn't have been WDC either, obviously Mac had a great car and both drivers are very talented but I think as team manager, you go with the driver with the proven record and tell the rookie, "look, you are great, but this isn't your year."

 

Mitch,

Pete will have a hard time understanding the logic behind your comments, hate tends to overcomes logic. I agree It should have been the standard protocol , if they did so, Mclaren would have the WDC not Ferrari. The real problem at mclaren, they where favoring Hamilton , there was no equal treatment after Canada . This reached critical mass at Hungary , if you study the sector times in qualy , you will see the times Hamilton Q3 ahead of Alonso , it was obviously from a lighter load, for eg. at Silverstone he was 2/10 -3/10 faster than Alonso and stopped 6 laps before on his first stint . Alonso was faster at the US GP and they did the same again, Hungary was just the end of the line as fas as Alonso was concerned and after that weekend he acted on it and pushed for a early release on his contract.

 

www.f1-live.com

Renault has pooled an incredible (US) $90 million to try to woo Fernando Alonso back to the French team in 2008 and 2009, according to reports.

The Spanish newspaper Diario As also claims that Flavio Briatore, who is still waiting to hear from his former protégé about the offer, has convinced one of McLaren's sponsors to re-defect to Renault next year if Alonso also returns to the team.

As said Movistar, a Spanish mobile brand owned by Telefonica, and BBVA, a Spanish banking group, are eager to be associated with Alonso's second Renault tenure, following a meeting in Madrid on Monday.

Insurance firm Mutua Madrilena, meanwhile, wants to switch back to Renault with Alonso, but is understood to be under binding contract to McLaren for 2008. Ron Dennis said recently that none of his team's sponsors are contractually linked with specific drivers.
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The three major Spanish sponsors' super-fund to woo Alonso, however, could cost Renault its title sponsor ING, due to the clash with banking rival BBVA, As added.

It is also claimed that even if Alonso does not meet Briatore's Tuesday deadline, it does not mean that he ultimately will not return to Renault next season.

Furthermore, if the Spaniard does choose against Renault, the Spanish super-fund sponsors may simply follow Alonso to his definitive 2008 team, such as Toyota.

Red Bull, however, would be unlikely to receive the backing, due to the Austrian squad's reluctance to sell the advertising space.

 

You are not stating a "fact", you are guessing on one possible outcome. You are using terms like "definately" and "fact", when in fact you are submitting pure speculation. (Your use of the word "definately", is why I commented that you are living in Wayne's World)

One could just as easily speculate that Hamilton could have won the WDC if team orders had been used when he had a clear lead in the championship (this was obviously not the case as Alo was clearly attacking at the end of the season).

The outcome you mentioned is certainly possible, however it is far from "definate" or "fact".

 

I love how you quote qualifying times. Go to your youtube and see what happened in the race at Indy. Hamilton schooled Alonso. Alonso tried ONE (1), (UNO), attempts to pass Hamilton down the straight and then fell back like a little *****. That's some champion. Luckily we won't have to listen to this non-sense in the coming years as Alonso has ZERO chance of winning a title for a long time. Can you say Jacque?

 

One undeniable fact, is the number of flying laps Hamilton vs Alonso
There are other undeniable facts that have been discussed at lenght,
Hamilton had Ron Dennis behind him giving him the "we were racing Alonso equal treatment", Alonso had the contractual "hey, it's in the contract so it's equal treatment"

 

 

You can analize could'a, should'a, and would'a till your blue in the face. You can go on to proclaim that Ron D is the devil.

Some of your assertions and speculations may even be somewhat valid.

However, I believe that Alonso himself bears a huge amount of responsibility for the hole he dug for himself in '07. IMHO, you have a huge blindspot that blocks you from applying the same level of scrutiny you give to other drovers to Alonso.

This thread is a 57 page testament to that blind allegiance.

But, I do enjoy the friendly banter.....

It will be sad to see the Alonso, Hamilton, Ron D. breakup in '08. Each seems so full of himself that they deserve each other.

 

I just don't know how you can support such an outright whinner and team-blamer like Alonso. Is it ever his fault? I haven't seen it when he admits being second best to anyone. Just that something outside of himself made a mistake or "Was not Enough"

 

A. Wayne's nightmare....

Alonso is benched, Ralf Schumacher drives in 08.

Alonso begins the 2009 season with 22 on the nose.

 

Banter Yes The analysis

 

Alonso can always sign a one year deal in 2008 with Sheraton Hotels to valet park my car!

 

This has been bothering me. There are some who consistently use "drover" as opposed to "driver".
Is this just a consistent typo, due to the proximity of the i and o, or is it intentional? If so, why?
One more question. Does A. Wayne have a job? I really appreciate the work he puts into this forum, but can't see where he gets the time. Is he rich and retired? A homebound quadraplegic? A 12 step "F1 Junkie" program failure? Alonso's mother? Alonso's secret lover?
Wayne, keep up the good work. I personally am glad you are here. AS