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That sucks! I have a new Stilo helmet and all the cords to plug the Catalyst into it. That was the way I was planning on running it...
Doc,
I have a standard 3.5mm headphone/mic system in my helmet and use a bluetooth receiver connected to a signal amplifier so that I can hear it better (my 996 Turbo wasn't a problem but my 6Cup is MUCH louder).
That sucks! I have a new Stilo helmet and all the cords to plug the Catalyst into it. That was the way I was planning on running it...
doc
we’ve sold a bunch of these and haven’t had any issues yet. In fact we did some testing/coaching this past weekend with a customer and he loved it. Stilo helmet and the RaceCom hard wire cable we sell for it.
Is there a way to power the device up at home to download the latest updates, before I install it in the car? Does it come with a home outlet adapter? Otherwise, I have to....install it in my car in the garage and let it update from there?
Is there a way to power the device up at home to download the latest updates, before I install it in the car? Does it come with a home outlet adapter? Otherwise, I have to....install it in my car in the garage and let it update from there?
Is there a way to power the device up at home to download the latest updates, before I install it in the car? Does it come with a home outlet adapter? Otherwise, I have to....install it in my car in the garage and let it update from there?
I use a standard microUSB cable to the Catalyst tablet.
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Just got the last big batch of inventory of these for those who might wish to take advantage of the $100 manufacturer rebate, purchase must be completed by the end of March. Free shipping.
Please reach out if I can help.
Have plenty of the most popular accessories proven to work with the Roux and Stilo, too.
Is there a way to power the device up at home to download the latest updates, before I install it in the car? Does it come with a home outlet adapter? Otherwise, I have to....install it in my car in the garage and let it update from there?
It has a battery and you can just pop it off the magnetic mount and carry it inside to do updates. You can also power it from any USB port.
Garmin cat and apex pro are both AI units. Garmin is very attractive because it provides actionable feedback without having to speak squiggly lines. The apex pro is even more simple with driver just trying to light up as many green lights as possible. How Is garmin better than apex pro from an actionable “idiot’s guide to improvement through data?”
How Is garmin better than apex pro from an actionable “idiot’s guide to improvement through data?”
There is a significant difference between Apex Pro and Catalyst as coaches while driving.
Apex Pro tells you if you are using all available grip instantaneously. If you then remember what it told you, you can squirrel that away for the subsequent lap.
Catalyst tells you how to handle upcoming corners based on how you did last time, corner-by-corner ("next right, carry more speed" or "apex earlier" or "apex later").
Both are limited by not knowing how fast you could go; only how fast you've already gone (so it's up to you to decide how much to push and go faster).
In my limited Catalyst experience, the post-session review, while groundbreaking in simplicity and ease of use, is ruined by not tagging turn-in and apex points reliably (often placing them far away from where they actually occurred). Not sure if this was my setup, or what, but a trivial example is Catalyst mistaking a lift at turn 1 at Laguna for the braking point and turn in for turn 2.
How Is garmin better than apex pro from an actionable “idiot’s guide to improvement through data?”
One is not “better” than the other per se, it just depends on how you learn and process feedback. When a customer asks us what I think is a better learning tool, I ask them about how they learn and what makes sense to them.
Apex Pro provides great instant feedback that you can act on the next lap: saw too many read lights in T1? Try something different. You can test your theories immediately. Then you can go back afterward and “replay” your laps and see what you did, when and how. But most of the “coaching” is in you to try nee things and get more green.
If you’re connected to or can hear the Garmin voice while driving, it provides similar instant feedback that is actionable the next lap like the Apex Pro, but it’s actually telling you WHAT to do, where and when. Some may see that as a little more intrusive, some more helpful. Then the after session review IMO is amazing and extremely powerful, breaking down just a few specific areas of improvement to work on next session.
And if you really like a fully powerful system and enjoy diving into data, then AiM is the tool for you. Even a simple Solo 2 can provide an enormous amount of coaching and driver improvement data if you know how to use and read it. I’ve had many customers say they think the Apex Pro and Garmin are too “simplistic” and want something more powerful, or something they can grow with and expand to video, car data and more.
This is why we carry different options and differnet platforms. It’s all in how you learn and what makes the most sense to you.
Both are limited by not knowing how fast you could go; only how fast you've already gone (so it's up to you to decide how much to push and go faster).
In my limited Catalyst experience, the post-session review, while groundbreaking in simplicity and ease of use, is ruined by not tagging turn-in and apex points reliably (often placing them far away from where they actually occurred). Not sure if this was my setup, or what, but a trivial example is Catalyst mistaking a lift at turn 1 at Laguna for the braking point and turn in for turn 2.
Would have to agree about some of the deficiencies of the Catalyst, but overall it's a "good' device. It's best as a laptimer/video recorder. The "AI" is really just reviewing your past data on that one session, and telling you that the time that you did "x" in a segment worked out better for your time in that segment than when you did "y" or "z", so that's not really AI, just simple comparison of segment times, speeds, and turn-in's. Yes, quite a few times, it'll mark an apex well away from where the apex really was, so its accelerometer which marks the "apex" and "turn-in" isn't accurate 50% of the time, but that's easy to ignore.
Overall, it's a "good" machine, not great, but easy to use.
Apologies if this has been discussed somewhere in the past 55 pages. . . Have people got the Catalyst to work with the Apple AirPods Pro? Any special tricks for pairing?
03-18-2021, 11:09 AM
