whojoemama

possible for you to post a short video so we can see quality - either here on link to youtube? thanks in advance....

ProCoach

Like I’ve always maintained, this is a feature set not required or necessary for this device to deliver its mission. It also indicates that Garmin is responsive to their user community, even though it’s been in the works since shortly after release last September.

While it’s a nice add, and it tips the balance for some towards going with this solution, especially since it can now even more easily export specific lap footage for incident review in PCA and NASA Club Racing, it’s really about sharing and posting, IMO.

The nice thing is that all current hardware is capable. My early pre-release unit works fine.

My next shipment is due in Tuesday.

Please DM or email me if I can help by providing a Catalyst, along with a wide variety of accessories like camera suction cup mounts, carrying cases, locking mounts, power cables, spare cameras and more.

ProCoach

Not yet. When this beta is released as an update I will.

flsupraguy

When do you expect the update to be out?

ProCoach

Not sure. It's an incremental update from 3.10, so it should be soon. Next four to six weeks, or less?

WP0

I'm glad Garmin is being responsive to constructive criticism. Here are a couple of more points for improvement:
1. allow more than 3 "opportunities" per comparison, as the "opportunities" seem that they could be much more helpful than simply comparing (rather inaccurate) thin lines on a tablet
2. allow comparison between sessions (yes, I've heard your excuse that "each session is unique," to which I reply "each lap is unique": tire temperature changes, as does a driver's ability to focus, which doesn't stop lap comparison within sessions; besides, IMSA compares laps between pit stops, which would be equivalent to separate sessions, so there's no real validity to that excuse.)

Larry Cable

dont you think that information is available on each segment, the opportunities are merely (I believe) the 3 top segments with the most opportunity for improvement...

WP0

No, there's more precise detail available in opportunities: for instance, the exact difference between the distances that braking started, turn in occurred, or acceleration stopped, etc. You can't really tell these details by looking at thin lines on a tablet.

In the segment comparison, you can tell a gross difference, but nothing small.

Larry Cable

good observation - thx ... I am still trying to extract something actionable from my Catalyst

ProCoach

Thanks to WP0. I will elaborate on his post.

No, there's MUCH more precise detail available in opportunities. Also, opportunities are prioritized and change as the low hanging fruit changes, from session to session, day to day.

It's a proven fact that any more than three, and all is forgotten in the car.

Under the tabs of the opportunities are three more in-depth comparisons, with strip charts for braking and acceleration, speed versus distance and corner geometry, like conventional analysis software.

For example, the exact difference between the distances that braking started, where and how fast you were when turn-in occurred and how soon acceleration started.

The difference between apex areas in relation to the entire radius, and which is faster.

Relative speed at corner entry from the fast average to your optimal.

I wish people would dig in a little more. There is a LOT of info there already.

But I will certainly relay comments and concerns. Also, send to garminpitcrew <at> garmin <dot> com

ProCoach

Yes, that information IS available for EACH of the three opportunities. And yes, that is exactly the point of the three opportunities, which DO change nearly every session, in my experience.

wmond

How does the until get updated with the latest software? Automatically if you get on a WiFi network?

Larry Cable

wifi update or via Garmin Express App on PC via USB ... I *think* you may also be able to do it via BT from a smartphone with the appropriate Garmin App installed.

ProCoach

Correct. Best way is when there is WiFi access, the top right side will have a red marker next to the icon, indicating an update is available. Click and go. Let it sit. Done.

WP0

After 3 weekends of using the Garmin catalyst, I can say that there is one easily usable, positive component to the device: it will evaluate all of the segments in all of the laps in one session, and piece together the best lap time for you, given the different lines that you took in that segment.

I hesitate to use the term AI for the Garmin catalyst, as it only does simple analysis of the segments that you drove, and determines what you did to get through that segment the fastest. If the device really used AI, it would tell you what line to take that you didn't take, which is faster than all the lines, turn-ins, and apices that you did try.