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Old 07-04-2023, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by matthewr87
Yeah I think we are going back to Lexus for the next family car after this. It won't drive as well and won't sound as nice, but a family car just has to work. Life is too busy to have to worry about this sort of thing.
I hear you. My wife likes her RX350 more than her Cayenne because it is simpler to operate. And she doesn’t have to worry about parking lot dings or getting it dirty because a brand new, loaded RX350 is one third the cost of a new Cayenne Turbo.

And get this . . . we’re considering getting a [gag] minivan. 🤮 We’re getting serious with dog competitions and need a low-floor, high cubic volume vehicle for transporting dog and equipment. You ought to see the parking lots at dog competitions — full of minivans with no rear seats and packed with dog crates. All the cool kids (in that world) drive minivans!
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Schnave;18890263

And get this . . . we’re considering getting a [gag
minivan. 🤮 We’re getting serious with dog competitions and need a low-floor, high cubic volume vehicle for transporting dog and equipment. You ought to see the parking lots at dog competitions — full of minivans with no rear seats and packed with dog crates. All the cool kids (in that world) drive minivans!
Please say it ain't so...........
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Old 07-04-2023, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Schnave
I hear you. My wife likes her RX350 more than her Cayenne because it is simpler to operate. And she doesn’t have to worry about parking lot dings or getting it dirty because a brand new, loaded RX350 is one third the cost of a new Cayenne Turbo.

And get this . . . we’re considering getting a [gag] minivan. 🤮 We’re getting serious with dog competitions and need a low-floor, high cubic volume vehicle for transporting dog and equipment. You ought to see the parking lots at dog competitions — full of minivans with no rear seats and packed with dog crates. All the cool kids (in that world) drive minivans!
Yeah I was originally thinking about the new LX600 but was leery of first year model bugs. And the wife (rightly so) said it was just too big. But the new GX has been announced and looks pretty good. In a few years it should be pretty well sorted out. Completely different experience from a Cayenne GTS though. I generally hate SUVs and one of the reasons I liked the GTS was because it doesn't really drive like an SUV. But of course if the battery is dead it doesn't drive at all
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Old 07-05-2023, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Schnave
I hear you. My wife likes her RX350 more than her Cayenne because it is simpler to operate. And she doesn’t have to worry about parking lot dings or getting it dirty because a brand new, loaded RX350 is one third the cost of a new Cayenne Turbo.

And get this . . . we’re considering getting a [gag] minivan. 🤮 We’re getting serious with dog competitions and need a low-floor, high cubic volume vehicle for transporting dog and equipment. You ought to see the parking lots at dog competitions — full of minivans with no rear seats and packed with dog crates. All the cool kids (in that world) drive minivans!

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Old 07-05-2023, 04:30 PM
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^^^ Not a big EV fan. But a minivan with a supercharged V8 that runs a sub 8-second quarter mile? Now, we’re talking! Alas, I’ll probably get a boring Honda Odyssey. Besides, I have to take it easy with our dog in the back.



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Old 07-05-2023, 09:18 PM
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Charger arrived today. Right now it's on level 2. Hopefully I'll know if it's holding charge by morning. Have an appointment at the dealership but not until late July....

If it dies again I'll just have them tow it in.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewr87
Charger arrived today. Right now it's on level 2. Hopefully I'll know if it's holding charge by morning. Have an appointment at the dealership but not until late July....

If it dies again I'll just have them tow it in.
Double check that is still charging after 30 minutes or so. Sometimes, depending on how it was connected, it will stop charging. If it is still charging after 30 minutes, it should stay connected.

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Old 07-06-2023, 03:02 PM
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Something weird is going on with these lithium batteries, and I hope someone will come up with a conversion kit as this is really a cause of concern.

I have a 2019 base with the original lithium battery still in, had the battery light come on 6 months ago and the dealer updated the software and they said it's just a glitch your battery is fine.
now and since about a month I had the light come on again, with no noticeable changes in how the car starts or drive, with the voltage while car running in the 13.2 - 13.4 range. and now suddenly since a couple of days ago the voltage would not go below 14.7 while the car is running, what caused it to change?

I am not sure how to calculate the batteries health, is it too late to get a charger and charge it overnight? do you think that will help?
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Old 07-06-2023, 04:13 PM
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. . . since a couple of days ago the voltage would not go below 14.7 while the car is running . . .
That is not normal. The high voltage suggests the alternator is sensing a low battery and attempting to pump a lot of juice into the battery to charge it. If one or more cells are failing, no amount of charging will fully charge the battery.

What does the voltmeter read when the engine is switched off? (Wait at least 4 hours after driving or charging for a more accurate reading). A reading of 13.0 - 13.2 volts would be about normal for a 4 year old battery. My 2019 battery typically reads 13.1V. If down below say, 12.8 volts, the battery may be failing.

To rule out a faulty charging system, you may wish to charge it overnight with a CTEK Lithium charger.

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Old 07-07-2023, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Schnave
That is not normal. The high voltage suggests the alternator is sensing a low battery and attempting to pump a lot of juice into the battery to charge it. If one or more cells are failing, no amount of charging will fully charge the battery.

What does the voltmeter read when the engine is switched off? (Wait at least 4 hours after driving or charging for a more accurate reading). A reading of 13.0 - 13.2 volts would be about normal for a 4 year old battery. My 2019 battery typically reads 13.1V. If down below say, 12.8 volts, the battery may be failing.

To rule out a faulty charging system, you may wish to charge it overnight with a CTEK Lithium charger.
just checked ( 24 hrs since parked ), reading with engine off is 13.1, so similar to your situation, but with a battery low warning.



I’ll probably get that charger and hope it’ll fix it.



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Old 07-07-2023, 12:47 PM
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Any idea what it might cost to replace one of these? I imagine we aren't talking about a couple hundred dollars like for a lead acid battery.
I had to replace the battery (under warranty) of my 2019 Cayenne S. It took over a month for my dealer to procure at battery. No car for over 30 days for a battery!
The battery is not available on the open market and must be purchased from Porsche. It costs just over $2500 to replace and install. Shocking.
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Old 07-08-2023, 01:49 PM
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I had to replace the battery (under warranty) of my 2019 Cayenne S. It took over a month for my dealer to procure at battery. No car for over 30 days for a battery!
The battery is not available on the open market and must be purchased from Porsche. It costs just over $2500 to replace and install. Shocking.
I have a 2019 Cayenne base with a CPO and my low battery light came on this morning. Did the dealer automatically honor the battery warranty or did you have to ask for it? Which dealer if you don't mind sharing? Thanks.
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jl1975rs
I have a 2019 Cayenne base with a CPO and my low battery light came on this morning. Did the dealer automatically honor the battery warranty or did you have to ask for it? Which dealer if you don't mind sharing? Thanks.
Tell the Sales who sold you the car, let the sales person handles it.
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I have been studying these battery labels too. The code I circled in Blue denotes the days, hours, minutes, and seconds past warranty that your $3,200 battery dies.

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Update on the wife's 22 GTS with the LiPO4 POS. After road side assistance jumped the car in our garage I drove around for a bit. Then next day I put it on the Ctek/Porsche charger overnight. In the morning it was charged. I bought a portable jump pack just in case and have been driving it around every day for the last week. Today I put the car back on the charger and it was down to the second light on the charger, meaning less than 90% charge. Is this normal for a car that is driven every day?
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