Diesel Cayenne and VW emission issue
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Hello,
New to the forum. Also considering the 2013 Cayenne diesel. I read an earlier post about the 6 yr or 100k extended warranty for original owners. Would this extend to me if I purchase the car? I'm dubious & the local Porsche dealership won't discuss it with me. Credit union won't sell me an aftermarket warranty for a Porsche.
New to the forum. Also considering the 2013 Cayenne diesel. I read an earlier post about the 6 yr or 100k extended warranty for original owners. Would this extend to me if I purchase the car? I'm dubious & the local Porsche dealership won't discuss it with me. Credit union won't sell me an aftermarket warranty for a Porsche.
As far as an aftermarket warranty, if it's not from Porsche, it's not a warranty but a form of Breakdown Insurance (from an insurance company). They are rarely as good as the factory warranty - Personally I would not buy one. They often have "named coverage," where they list only the items covered, and there are often key things that aren't named, that will allow the company to deny coverage. Only buy Insurance Coverage if it names EXCLUDED items, and then read very carefully. Also where must the work be done?
And must you pay for the repair in advance and then submit for reimbursement, or will the Insurance Company pre-authorize the repair and pay the repair shop directly? If you are considering such an investment, take a copy of the Insurance Policy to the Dealer Service Department and ask if they will accept payment from that company and if they have had positive experience with the Insurer.
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You should be able to take the VIN to the dealer's Service Department and check the status of the warranty. It should go with the car, not the owner.
As far as an aftermarket warranty, if it's not from Porsche, it's not a warranty but a form of Breakdown Insurance (from an insurance company). They are rarely as good as the factory warranty - Personally I would not buy one. They often have "named coverage," where they list only the items covered, and there are often key things that aren't named, that will allow the company to deny coverage. Only buy Insurance Coverage if it names EXCLUDED items, and then read very carefully. Also where must the work be done?
And must you pay for the repair in advance and then submit for reimbursement, or will the Insurance Company pre-authorize the repair and pay the repair shop directly? If you are considering such an investment, take a copy of the Insurance Policy to the Dealer Service Department and ask if they will accept payment from that company and if they have had positive experience with the Insurer.
As far as an aftermarket warranty, if it's not from Porsche, it's not a warranty but a form of Breakdown Insurance (from an insurance company). They are rarely as good as the factory warranty - Personally I would not buy one. They often have "named coverage," where they list only the items covered, and there are often key things that aren't named, that will allow the company to deny coverage. Only buy Insurance Coverage if it names EXCLUDED items, and then read very carefully. Also where must the work be done?
And must you pay for the repair in advance and then submit for reimbursement, or will the Insurance Company pre-authorize the repair and pay the repair shop directly? If you are considering such an investment, take a copy of the Insurance Policy to the Dealer Service Department and ask if they will accept payment from that company and if they have had positive experience with the Insurer.
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If a Cayenne already has the diesel CPO warranty, I wonder if a Porsche dealer has to perform any inspections and fix issues to qualify for a typical CPO or will they sell the car "As Is" with the warranty. Will they have any obligation to inspect anything? They might not disclose something like accident damage.
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If a Cayenne already has the diesel CPO warranty, I wonder if a Porsche dealer has to perform any inspections and fix issues to qualify for a typical CPO or will they sell the car "As Is" with the warranty. Will they have any obligation to inspect anything? They might not disclose something like accident damage.
Otherwise, they just sell it as is, with the extended (factory) warranty.
But I wonder... how much is it worth now to have just that inspection completed (and any repairs made) if you still get the 6/100?
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Looks like the CARB is scrutinizing ALL US bound diesels. Interestingly enough VW has not put any models forward for certification in MY2017. My guess is the residual of Diesel-gate.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...n=awdailydrive
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...n=awdailydrive
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Looks like the CARB is scrutinizing ALL US bound diesels. Interestingly enough VW has not put any models forward for certification in MY2017. My guess is the residual of Diesel-gate.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...n=awdailydrive
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...n=awdailydrive
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Old news but since I have nothing else to do, I am sharing a link to the court's website. You can download the transcript of the July 26 meeting to read the exact words of what was discussed about the 3.0 engines.
http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl
http://www.cand.uscourts.gov/crb/vwmdl
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Once again, thanks for posting this link. I read the transcript, all 78 pages, it was quite interesting. Be interesting to see what happens Aug 25th for the 3.0-liter case.
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Same issues as the 2.0?
Check out: "New info on how VW, Porsche, Audi V6 TDI engine cheat works"- http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/08/v...ftware-report/
Check out: "New info on how VW, Porsche, Audi V6 TDI engine cheat works"- http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/08/v...ftware-report/
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Same issues as the 2.0?
Check out: "New info on how VW, Porsche, Audi V6 TDI engine cheat works"- http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/08/v...ftware-report/
Check out: "New info on how VW, Porsche, Audi V6 TDI engine cheat works"- http://www.autoblog.com/2016/08/08/v...ftware-report/
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Last edited by skiahh; 08-09-2016 at 01:44 AM.
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Since most emissions compliance testing takes around 20 minutes, the software in the three VW Group models shuts off the emissions control equipment after 22 minutes, a straightforward end run around the testing.
Average commute time was 45 minutes. Now is 25 minutes...
Makes me wonder...