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Old 06-03-2018, 04:35 PM
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TCU? Just transmission programming only?
Yes, transmission only. The engine remap has been available for quite awhile.
Old 06-03-2018, 11:38 PM
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Yes, transmission only. The engine remap has been available for quite awhile.
Ah, never heard of them. Any experience?
Old 06-04-2018, 01:00 AM
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Ah, never heard of them. Any experience?
There are several threads on the forum about the tune. All highly recommend the the remap. Malone lists output as 305bhp/490lb-ft.
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Malone is popular with the Touareg guys. I thought the transmission software was untouchable. But if Malone can do it, the better.

There has been a debate between what Malone does and what Bluespark does. Most here prefer Bluespark because it is a box and reversible. With Malone, you are actually changing the actual map.

I find it interesting that Touareg guys seem to go with Malone while CD guys like Bluespark. At this time, I would go with whoever makes the CD back to what it used to be. We know that both engine and transmission software were changed. So, if Malone can also fix the transmission, i would consider it.
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Originally Posted by visitador
Malone is popular with the Touareg guys. I thought the transmission software was untouchable. But if Malone can do it, the better.

There has been a debate between what Malone does and what Bluespark does. Most here prefer Bluespark because it is a box and reversible. With Malone, you are actually changing the actual map.

I find it interesting that Touareg guys seem to go with Malone while CD guys like Bluespark. At this time, I would go with whoever makes the CD back to what it used to be. We know that both engine and transmission software were changed. So, if Malone can also fix the transmission, i would consider it.
Malone kind of quietly started offering remaps for the CD, while Bluespark had a very vocal advocate on several Porsche forums, although he has gone dark for some time now. Malone works great on both pre and post fix diesels and you can flash back to stock if needed. Bluespark has a supposedly updated box that might not detonate on a post-fix CD, but results seem mixed. Only takes one instance and you have permanently reduced the life of your engine.
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^^^ Andrew, keep us informed on the Malone mapping. I have been out of town, so I don't have experiences to report, but based on what some members say, it seems the lag starts showing up after some driving. If that is the case, a Malone remap of engine and transmission would be nice, specially since you said it is reversible. That would be the best outcome
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Originally Posted by visitador
^^^ Andrew, keep us informed on the Malone mapping. I have been out of town, so I don't have experiences to report, but based on what some members say, it seems the lag starts showing up after some driving. If that is the case, a Malone remap of engine and transmission would be nice, specially since you said it is reversible. That would be the best outcome
Will do, the Malone is a big improvement over stock, but the post-fix transmission lag is still there in certain conditions, although a bit more tolerable. If anyone reading this has a pre-fix car, please send me a PM.
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Would be very interested in the Malone TCU tune.
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Originally Posted by AndrewWK
There are several threads on the forum about the tune. All highly recommend the the remap. Malone lists output as 305bhp/490lb-ft.
Thanks. To be honest mostly been paying attention to the diesel thread and little else.

Originally Posted by visitador
Malone is popular with the Touareg guys. I thought the transmission software was untouchable. But if Malone can do it, the better.

There has been a debate between what Malone does and what Bluespark does. Most here prefer Bluespark because it is a box and reversible. With Malone, you are actually changing the actual map.

I find it interesting that Touareg guys seem to go with Malone while CD guys like Bluespark. At this time, I would go with whoever makes the CD back to what it used to be. We know that both engine and transmission software were changed. So, if Malone can also fix the transmission, i would consider it.
By my reading, Malone is reversible too. Bluespark is a piggyback, yo reverse you just pull the unit. Easier but I like maps better.

Thanks for the heads up. Will not derail the thread further.
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Originally Posted by docwyte
Would be very interested in the Malone TCU tune.
Wonder how it drives with just a Malone TCU map and VW post fix ECU tune.
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
By my reading, Malone is reversible too.
But logs count of how many times ECU map has been changed.
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But logs count of how many times ECU map has been changed.
Yes, it would. But not going to get into that debate. He simply said it wasn't reversible.
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To me, the CD is too expensive to live with without a warranty. Even if it's highly, highly unlikely that PCNA would ever find out that my flash count doesn't match, that it has a tune in it, etc. I just do not want that risk.

Others are cool with it - and you get zero judgment from me, honest.

Having been traumatized in the past with warranty issues on modified cars (mostly GM's).... I now no longer mod anything that isn't easily reversible (and 100% undetectable when reversed) when it's still under warranty. I have a good relationship with my service team too, and would never expect them to "rat me out" but it's ultimately PCNA that will catch it.

If I still had my 2014, which would have been almost out of warranty today.... I'd probably consider a Malone setup, as it seems to get excellent reviews. Especially with an accompanying TCU tune.

But my 2015 has a long way to go.
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Yes, there is a risk that they could read the flash counter and know something got flashed. They wouldn't know what however. They'd really want to screw you to take a stand on it. That being said, it's a personal decision. I tend to agree with you, warranty coverage is nice and it's hard to swallow doing something that could potentially impact it...
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Originally Posted by docwyte
Yes, there is a risk that they could read the flash counter and know something got flashed. They wouldn't know what however. They'd really want to screw you to take a stand on it. That being said, it's a personal decision. I tend to agree with you, warranty coverage is nice and it's hard to swallow doing something that could potentially impact it...
Yep. I admit I am overly conservative. Too many bad memories.

And don’t kid yourself... the mfr reads forums, and can usually put 2+2 together when it comes to matching screen names to cars.

I used to work for Navistar, on the Ford Powerstroke program. My dad is still there and I have friends still there.

They all read the forums, and when they get wind of unusual warranty claims, they read. Trust me in that.

We tend to think of mfr’s as a sort of large inhuman borg... but behind the scenes, there are smart engineers.


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