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Old 05-07-2018, 03:33 PM
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Also, something to be aware of after fix: The Adblue pump may need replacement:

http://forums.ross-tech.com/showthre...own-Error-Code
Old 05-08-2018, 10:05 PM
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Anyone seeing their RPMs go up and then back down when pressing the accelerator?

I'm seeing it in the "problem range" - 3rd, low-mid 20MPH range. Press the accelerator, RPMs pop up to about 1900, then drop back to ~1400 and the vehicle starts to accelerate at that point. It looks like it might sort of do the same thing in 4th and 5th, too, but the drop, if there, is very subtle.

Also, I'm seeing an increase in lugging. That is, tranny will select 7th gear at about 41ish MPH and hold it, even when accelerating or going uphill until forced to downshift. And lugging to the point you can feel the vibrations in the seat of your pants.
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Yup. That is a good description. Same issue.
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Maybe it is time to contact our lawyers and tell them there is a "drive ability" issue
Old 05-09-2018, 03:07 PM
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Well the rise and fall of RPM is likely the torque converter locking up.
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How are you guys driving with your eyes on the tach so much?

Occasionally I'll catch it in a laggy moment but I feel like those moments are more the transmission waffling between wanting to be "eco" vs provide performance. Not so much the motor.
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Originally Posted by visitador
Maybe it is time to contact our lawyers and tell them there is a "drive ability" issue
I agree!
Old 05-09-2018, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by visitador
Maybe it is time to contact our lawyers and tell them there is a "drive ability" issue
Not sure that gets anything more than $500. But I agree, though I do want more documentation and solid evidence first for those of us with problematic vehicles. Our '14 continues to run well, post fix. I'm going to do an acceleration test against them for 0-60 and, eventually, a dyno for both.

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How are you guys driving with your eyes on the tach so much?

Occasionally I'll catch it in a laggy moment but I feel like those moments are more the transmission waffling between wanting to be "eco" vs provide performance. Not so much the motor.
Planning, scanning. I know where the problem conditions are generally and, when safe, will pre-scan the are so I can clear it and safely watch the instruments longer than usual during the evolution.
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Today after driving about 160 highway miles I got the flashing glow plug indicator and the car had no power. Transmission would not down shift. I was able to eventually pull over and do an engine restart and the indicator went out and power returned. It is going in Friday for a scan. Car has the fix.

The dealer just called: the car needs a new DPF at 37K miles.

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Originally Posted by Mark Dreyer


My 2010 Touareg TDI had lag in normal mode but in sport mode it took off with no delay that I could sense, similar to my current Cayenne GTS with the V8.

When I tested a fixed CD, there was really bad lag in both normal and sport mode. The sport button didn’t seem to make any difference. Furthermore, when the turbos kicked in, it was so forceful, that I’d be concerned about potential loss of control if the front wheels weren’t pointed straight ahead.
Apples and oranges. The 2010 T Reg has a different generation engine.
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Originally Posted by skiahh
Anyone seeing their RPMs go up and then back down when pressing the accelerator?

I'm seeing it in the "problem range" - 3rd, low-mid 20MPH range. Press the accelerator, RPMs pop up to about 1900, then drop back to ~1400 and the vehicle starts to accelerate at that point. It looks like it might sort of do the same thing in 4th and 5th, too, but the drop, if there, is very subtle.

Also, I'm seeing an increase in lugging. That is, tranny will select 7th gear at about 41ish MPH and hold it, even when accelerating or going uphill until forced to downshift. And lugging to the point you can feel the vibrations in the seat of your pants.
yes, but my CD has ALWAYS done this. From day one. Always and only in third, at that speed range. It’s from the torque converter being open then locking.
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
Well the rise and fall of RPM is likely the torque converter locking up.
Yup. Normal.
Old 05-10-2018, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf


yes, but my CD has ALWAYS done this. From day one. Always and only in third, at that speed range. It’s from the torque converter being open then locking.
Weird. The '14 doesn't do this and the '15 has just started doing it.
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf


Apples and oranges. The 2010 T Reg has a different generation engine.
True, but I wasn’t commenting on the engine. I was commenting on the delay coming onto throttle, which would be some sort of engine software management issue. Plus I had driven pre-fix Cayenne diesel loaners and they seemed identical to my Touareg.

Regardless of the different engines, is it unreasonable to expect that the Cayenne would be at least as responsive as it’s less expensive corporate sibling, the T-reg? Because the VW was very responsive coming onto throttle in sport mode. The fixed Cayenne, was horrible in both regular and sport modes.
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Originally Posted by r553
Today after driving about 160 highway miles I got the flashing glow plug indicator and the car had no power. Transmission would not down shift. I was able to eventually pull over and do an engine restart and the indicator went out and power returned. It is going in Friday for a scan. Car has the fix.
Usually if that indicator goes on, it may be the adblue heater. But since your CD lost power, it may be something else in the system, such as the high pressure fuel pump or the injectors. I doubt it has anything to do with the fix software.


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