r553

993PET,
The warranty state of the vehicle should be visible to the selling dealer by looking up the VIN within the Porsche system. I posted a copy of my CD's warranties previously here.

Rob

993PET

Thanks for your reply, below is a link to one of the '15 CD's for sale at Porsche Exchange, in their description they mention CPO until 07/31/23 which is 8 year from the warranty start date of 07/31/15 taken from the current Porsche build sheet from the Porsche Admin System (2nd link) on the same vehicle. This sheet also states that the warrant end date is 07/31/21 not 07/31/23.

https://porsche-exchange.porschedeal...tallic+1629319

https://admin.porschedealer.com/repo...AF2A20FLA40759

Anyway, my search has not yielded any CD's apart from those mentioned above that have 8 year warranties.

JF

skiahh

I asked my dealer to research this for me, to figure out if the CPO on the "courtesy CPO" is an overlay or tack-on. They came up with nada saying it was a tack-on for a total of 8 years. Not from their regional rep nor PCNA. Just an overlay that removes the 100K mileage limit. Not sure where/how the 8 years is being offered, but if it is, I suspect there may be lots of us that bought these '15s and '16s that start calling PCNA demanding our CPOs are tacked on, rather than overlaid.

Tradez

I have heard rumor of a case where the first step of the modification was made by a dealer and then halted. Believe that may have included modification/fix of the software (fuel remapping), but was stopped and did not include the new catalytic converter or other hardware fixes. Does anyone know what that would mean for performance? Are there any safety issues, for example, if the catalytic converter is not upgraded? Believe the fuel remapping is to preheat the catalytic converter. What happens in that case if the original catalytic converter is still used. What would be the ramifications for the dealership if the partial "fix" was done but had not been authorized by the vehicle owner?

visitador

Urban myth? I haven't done on mine yet but I assume a dealer would change the hardware first before doing the software. Maybe those members who had fixed their 13-14 CD chime in? Did any of you guys watch the process?

Also, why on earth would someone just have the software fix and not do the hardware? It is my understanding that the hardware are the same as 15-16, hence actually an upgrade

bella1

chsu74

stronbl

I did not watch the process as it was most of the day. But my SA said it was hardware first followed by software. That would make sense too. No new problems as I've noted in several posts and power and fuel mileage are basically unchanged.

skiahh

If you think about it, and how computer controlled everything is, I'd guess they HAVE to do HW first, then SW because the SW won't take if it can't find the new HW.

GT3RS-Fan1

Absolutely.

Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1

Tradez

In theory what you are all saying makes sense. But believe in this actual case, the software program was upgraded/run first and then the process was interrupted. So the hardware was not added. Clearly that's not optimal. What would that do to the original catalytic converter given fuel remapping? And what would you expect would be the resulting performance and safety issues?

Thanks.

chsu74

I just picked up my CD after fix and started it cold. Few things I noticed.
1. Cold start fuel mapping/high idle is longer.
2. As other have pointed out, holds lower gears longer to warm up car.
3. Do not notice hesitation or any issues with drivability.

I was given a Macan GTS as a loaner. It was kitted out to probably 80-90MSRP with all the options. I left disappointed with the Macan surprisingly for the money and expected more. It handled better because it is lighter and lower than my CD but the CD's got better grunt from 1500-2700RPM for daily use. I had to really wind the GTS up and it still did not have the feel of torque push like my CD.

If I can only have one car and no need for storage space, a flashed Macan GTS would be on the list. Owning a 993TT or another fun car for spirited driving; Macan GTS comes after CD for daily work..

User 52121

My CD is in for service (fix the rear license plate mount as a WE-OWE) plus a new windshield and they gave me a Macan loaner. 2nd time I've had a Macan loaner... first time was not long after I bought my first CD, had a Macan S for a few days.

Overall - a nice car. Drives nice. But to me, it feels very "Audi". Not that "Audi" is bad. Just feels "Audi" vs. "Porsche". Soft ride, light steering, etc.

midas

Looks like about 2,000 people opted out of the class action law suit. First case settled at the court house steps.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/23/...iesel-lawsuit/

User 52121