ddeliber

Are you sure it is ALL CDs? I thought that it was just new and CPO CDs. I see a bunch of em listed at Porsche dealers without CPO. As long as they were punched or delivered before the stop sale I was under the impression that they could be sold.

rlhyde

We had two 2016 Porsche Cayenne Diesels on order. We had to have them before years end. We were told up until the last moment that they would be delivered to us. Then we were told, last week, that they could not be delivered. If the dealer tells you that you will get one, the dealer is misinformed.

ddeliber

Not sure if you were referring to my post but I am talking about used uncertified CDs not new.

Rob VN

Latest update from VW: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/12/10/v...iesel-scandal/

skiahh

"VW blames US for diesel scandal, no fix in sight"

I really hate journalists and news outlets that pull crap like that. There is nothing in the article nor the press release that "blames" the US. In fact, VW takes responsibility for wanting to get into the stricter US market by finding a way around the rules.

All that accomplishes is to rob the journalist and the outlet of credibility.

visitador

The Internet journalists don't care. They just want you to click on the story to generate clickable views. Sad state of affairs.

gnat

Worse is the number of people that just read the link name or the title and think that is all they need to know

PJ Cayenne

Interesting development. Maybe we won't need a class action process?

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/17/vw-cr...cted-cars.html

gnat

The jaded side of me says that such a system will require you have any fixes applied (regardless if they are mandated or not).

PJ Cayenne

Which will come with a free tire rotation (I think that's a $189 value at your local Porsche dealer) and car wash ($49). And it won't drive like it does now.

997rs4.0

Just read that all VW diesels affected in Europe will be asked for dealer fix. This will start just after new year. Depending on engine the upgrade will take between 30min to 1hour.

Still not figured out the fix for US market.

Source is Auto motor and sport magazine.

sclemmons

My dealer has turned his CD's into a demo fleet. With my 997 in the shop, I drove a base model with Bose, springs and Prestige package home today and averaged 75 mph and 36 mpg. And it is a blast to drive up my demo hill at home. I hope they don't ruin a very good thing over NOS emissions with all the beaters still on the road. Too bad they can't sell the demos or they would move a lot of them. I would be happy with the one I drove home and it is a stripper model pretty much.

jhbrennan

They are good cars...too bad they got caught up in the VW "defeat" mess. I'm surprised that the stop sale order allows the cars to be driven if there is some suspicion that they pollute more than the qualifying tests allowed.

visitador

Ah! So, legalese now, eh? I fear it is one of those deny any claim first. Hope you go away. Then when you threaten to file a lawsuit, inundate you with lots of forms and paperwork.

Now, if any one from VW/Porsche/Audi headquarters is reading this: That won't work. All it means is for me to avoid any VW products in the near and distant future. So, better tailor your compensation solutions in a fair and consumer friendly manner.

PJ Cayenne

I don't understand why they don't just buy us out, and sell the cars elsewhere. That has to be the least expensive solution and the most straightforward. If you ultimately can't pass emissions tests in any one state, this makes them unviable for the US market. I am sure not everyone will be happy about that remedy, but money talks.