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Old 04-14-2020, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by switchcars
He's full of crap. Brand new PCCBs are shiny. Those rotors look toasted.

Thanks a bunch Doug. Saved me at least the time I would have spent otherwise on this. It is not so much the car that has me running, not walking, away...its the lack of simple forthrightness on basic info requests.
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Originally Posted by cunderwood
I'm local in OKC, so if you need someone to go by and take a look/photos, slide in my DM's.
Thanks cunderwood...i am taking a hard pass based on the fact that I have gotten the run around on every aspect of what i consider basic initial information on a car like this.
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Originally Posted by HpIzKing
Thanks cunderwood...i am taking a hard pass based on the fact that I have gotten the run around on every aspect of what i consider basic initial information on a car like this.
My .02 cents worth. It may be worth the 90 mile (that's nothing) drive and a PPI. In this case you are really not buying the "dealer" as they are just a conduit. Yea, PCCB's may need to replaced but let's say the PPI checks out? You offer 163K and bam you have a low mile, loaded 7.2RS. IMO that would be under market value for those miles. Sometimes you have to make things happen to get the deal. Even in these Covid times a garage queen with those miles is going to bring 180 plus or more. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Mr. Adair
My .02 cents worth. It may be worth the 90 mile (that's nothing) drive and a PPI. In this case you are really not buying the "dealer" as they are just a conduit. Yea, PCCB's may need to replaced but let's say the PPI checks out? You offer 163K and bam you have a low mile, loaded 7.2RS. IMO that would be under market value for those miles. Sometimes you have to make things happen to get the deal. Even in these Covid times a garage queen with those miles is going to bring 180 plus or more. Good luck!
I'd walk away from that car, it should be selling for less, or way under market. Much better off paying 30k less for one with some miles that hasn't been beaten on quite as hard.


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^^^ at least someone (Mr Adair), with no skin in the game, is keeping it real ^^^

that's the thing to do, it's not like new rotors = MY14/15 GT3 ticking time-bomb motor....
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Even in these Covid times a garage queen with those miles is going to bring 180 plus or more.
How do you know this?
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Old 04-15-2020, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pissedpuppy
^^^ at least someone (Mr Adair), with no skin in the game, is keeping it real ^^^

that's the thing to do, it's not like new rotors = MY14/15 GT3 ticking time-bomb motor....
Except toasted rotors probably indicates hard track use, which likely means a toasted LSD, and could mean CLs need service, and would also warrant the gearbox checked out, and the variocam bolts, and the clutch......997.2 RS have some real expensive failure points that are exposed with heavy track use, and you could easily get into it $20k at the drop of a hat. 90% of that stuff does not get checked on a PPI, especially not by the average Porsche tech who is trained on a scanner to read codes on Cayennes and Boxsters (I'm overstating this, of course, to make a point. There are some great Porsche techs out there). I'm not saying don't take a closer look, but if the dealer is starting off by misleading you on the rotors, it may not be that easy to find out what you need in order to be comfortable on the purchase.

You're better off finding a clean one at that price point anyway. You can get a tracked out one for <$150k all day long.
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Originally Posted by hf1
How do you know this?
Well, I guess I could be wrong but I have bought 2 7.2RS’s in the last 5 years and sold 1. Also watched these cars almost every day for 7 years.
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Well, I guess I could be wrong but I have bought 2 7.2RS’s in the last 5 years and sold 1. Also watched these cars almost every day for 7 years.
I think an otherwise clean 8xxx mile car could have been in the 170's before the sh*t hit the fan. Not now. And certainly not with shot PCCB's.
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I'd walk away from that car, it should be selling for less, or way under market. Much better off paying 30k less for one with some miles that hasn't been beaten on quite as hard.
So you think there are loaded 7.2’s with 8k for miles out there for 139k? You’re kidding right? Sure are a lot of people making assumptions on a car that nobody has seen or touched or had a PPI. When I was shopping I would have spent the PPI money on this car to find out for sure or at least saw the car in person.
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Originally Posted by switchcars
Except toasted rotors probably indicates hard track use, which likely means a toasted LSD, and could mean CLs need service, and would also warrant the gearbox checked out, and the variocam bolts, and the clutch......997.2 RS have some real expensive failure points that are exposed with heavy track use, and you could easily get into it $20k at the drop of a hat. 90% of that stuff does not get checked on a PPI, especially not by the average Porsche tech who is trained on a scanner to read codes on Cayennes and Boxsters (I'm overstating this, of course, to make a point. There are some great Porsche techs out there). I'm not saying don't take a closer look, but if the dealer is starting off by misleading you on the rotors, it may not be that easy to find out what you need in order to be comfortable on the purchase.

You're better off finding a clean one at that price point anyway. You can get a tracked out one for <$150k all day long.
Well yea, if that’s actually the condition of the car. My point is nobody knows this yet. I’d drive 90 miles to find out.
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Originally Posted by bonehead
I think an otherwise clean 8xxx mile car could have been in the 170's before the sh*t hit the fan. Not now. And certainly not with shot PCCB's.
Ask Doug what a clean 7.2 loaded RS with PCCBs with 8k for miles is worth right now. And how many guys he has looking for them.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Adair
Ask Doug what a clean 7.2 loaded RS with PCCBs with 8k for miles is worth right now. And how many guys he has looking for them.
Ok, Doug. What's it worth? I never claimed to be an expert. Just my opinion and based on what I purchased mine for a year ago.
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Originally Posted by bonehead
Ok, Doug. What's it worth? I never claimed to be an expert. Just my opinion and based on what I purchased mine for a year ago.
No worries, I wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers! This should be fun I am basing my opinion on watching these cars forever and what I have learned from Doug (I have used him to buy and sell twice, full disclosure).
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Originally Posted by bonehead
Ok, Doug. What's it worth? I never claimed to be an expert. Just my opinion and based on what I purchased mine for a year ago.
$150-175k for a no stories, clean, sub 10k-mile car. Depends on color and options, assuming clean overall and good rotors

More for PTS.

I have buyers but there are very few clean ones out there. So many storied cars. So many.
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