fastb4ck

I sent you a message, I saw that you were bidding on that white one from BAT

There is another white one near Chicago that I keep seeing on local marketplace in case you're interested

Doug H

Lol, this is awesome. Stil holding a grudge and took all that time to type this because your pissed about the time it took you to re-list? Vindictive dude and I am sure none of the above was embellished.

Dealers always ask you to take ads down immediately even if they don’t have another buyer lined up for several other reasons.

I know nothing about these guys except to say that they have some freaking awesome cars and not seeing any complaints about them selling misrepresented junk.

Doug H

I shrug off the personality, ego clash stuff if the car is great. Who the frick cares if they are nice or not if they have a unicorn and that is the car you want. Let me see, several years with a bad **** one of a kind or super mint, cherry unicorn car versus having to deal with a guy that rub someone else wrong for a moment.

I’ll take the car. It will last a lot longer than my interaction with the sales guy who could have just been having a bad day when you spoke to him . . . or perhaps you rubbed him wrong and he don’t take no shyte either. Who knows. Who cares if the car is awesome.

FORENN

Yep. Easily one of sleaziest dealers in the business.

raidersfan

Vindictive? I own 2 businesses and get 5-star ratings on Google across the board. As a result, I expect to be treated as I treat my customers. Most businesses do a good job; a few take advantage and lie to get ahead. Both my businesses are customer focused and successful due to repeat business. I have backed out of a deal 2 different times to buy a car: both times, I sent the parties $1,000 to make up for their time and the fact that I gave them my word and then didn't complete the transaction.

If you think this dealer's actions are OK then we obviously have very different ethical standards.

Doug H

Haha, tell us how great you really are.

I dunno man. I cannot recall getting that bent over any car sales people over the years. Then again, I am used to dealing with a**holes trying to screw you and make you look bad after 26 years of hard core litigation mostly in NY, LA and Miami where the trial lawyers always play nice.

The experience you described wouldn't deter me if they had something awesome I wanted. Perhaps I am just thicker skinned.

That said, I did get super vindictive 3 years ago when I purchased a set of wheel and they sent the wrong shade, the finish was rough and had imperfections and they refused to take them back or contribute to the costs to have them refinished.

. . . Here is the link . . . It definitely was not one of my finer moments, but you gotta admit you have never seen a for sale ad like this one.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ly-2-days.html

Doug H

Lol, give some examples of what they did. You guys have me curious now, but your just making generalizations with no facts. I need to call my buddy that owns an exotic dealership down there and get the skinny. He is just a jerk or does he actually rip people?


Edit: My buddy in North Miami said has never heard of All Things Porsche, but he also does not deal in Porsches really. He has more of a high end focus so he is going to check with some other guys around town that deal in Porsche.

hexagone

Florida dealers gonna be Florida dealers. Might be a gross blanket statement, but I work in the dealer industry and this rings generally true down to the lowliest stores and up.

SP2000

I once got a quote from a FL dealer with a $799 doc fee and something like $800 title fee. I was impressed with their level of rip-off-ness. That's like hall of fame worthy stuff. But people must pay that otherwise they wouldn't try it.

Doug H

Lol, completely true in the Peninsula. Same with attorneys down there. Completely the opposite dynamics up in the Panhandle for both car dealers and lawyers . . . and people in general. Its those dang New Yorkers that are so grumpy and aggressive down there and that mentality permeates South Florida. BTW, I have great friends in Miami from NY so don't get all uptight about my comment. You know you guys are different.

I have found that South Florida dealers that are owned by the larger corporate chains such as Sonic, Autonation or etc. still have normal reasonable dealer, doc and title fees and etc.

soundbehindyou

Relative to your NY = Florida connection.....I believe All Things Porsche used to be in Staten Island

Doug H

Lol, that explains in.

8Lug

My sense is that most of these boutique dealers have very little patience for bottom feeders and tire kickers and are pretty good at quickly sniffing them out. Many have dedicated years to establishing a network of contacts that help them locate desirable cars. Sure, they will also snag any opportunity to take advantage of a public listing if they think they can profit from a flip. They are, after all, in it to make money. Now you get your Joe Shmoe that calls one of these dealers with the same mentality he has when he walks into a Chevy dealer to buy his wife a mini-van; that is to say, he expects the salesman to bend over backwards to make a sale for a $200 commission, and you end up with customer suffering from shell shock because they got called out. I'm not saying this is the case for anyone here, just speaking generally. From my personal experience, if you call any of these dealers and have an intelligent discussion about the car you're interested in, rather than starting your conversation with seeing how cheap you can get the car, you get taken much more seriously and treated with respect. If, on the other hand, you call and just start making low ball offers you get summarily dismissed like the piker that you really are. Again, this is just personal experience. I'm not commenting on any individuals on dealers in this thread.

SP2000

I always crack up at people who mix emotion and business. Both a buyer and a seller should have zero emotion invested in any of it. I as a buyer make you an offer. You have 3 options. Reject it, accept it or counter it. Being offended because it's a low offer is just stupid and shows a lack of maturity. Same with a buyer who gets their feathers ruffled because a salesman didn't bow down and kiss the ground they walk on.

As for the dealers who are too special to accept low offers. That changes very quickly when cashflow drops by 80% and the rent as well as payroll is due on the 1st of the month. Those "bottom feeders" start looking might appealing.

mujeriega

Not sure if it is still the case but I still remember going to restaurants in South Florida in the late 90's early 00's and having the mandatory 18% tip regardless of party size... and then receiving legendary bad service for most of those trips.