Bobby 911

exactly

8Lug

To each their own but I wouldn't describe the GTS as a better feeling car than a Turbo. Just depends on what you like. I owned both cars simultaneously and to me, the Turbo was a much more exciting car to drive than the GTS. I actually bought my GTS partly based on comments such as yours about it being just a better feeling car, more driver oriented, more pure, etc. I'm also traditionally biased toward RWD and naturally aspirated cars . Unfortunately it didn't live up to the hype. Maybe on a race track I would see the true handling virtues of the GTS. But I'm rarely on a race track and if I was, I'd be in a GT3. The GTS is certainly spectacular, but so is the Turbo. You really have to drive both and decide for yourself. This is just my personal experience. I have no interest in convincing anyone that one car is better than the other.

ThomasCarreraGTS

Yeah, I’ve got no need to convince anyone either. For some people the Turbo is no doubt the right choice. I was answering a specific question from a poster asking why the GTS is so desirable and holds such good value. My perspective comes from over 1,000,000 miles in a wide variety of cars on the road and also thousands of miles instructing and competing on racetracks across the country. For my use, and many others including the Porsche factory (GT3), a naturally aspirated and rear wheel drive sports car is the only way to go. Turbo buyers tend not to be drivers in the traditional sense and are instead focused on other parts of the car ownership experience. I have no issue with that. We are all free to get whatever it is that we want out of our cars, and each of us are right for ourselves! Any 911 is an exceptional car. While I have no interest in a Turbo, I have spent many miles on track in Turbo and Turbo S models, and the things they can do for their drivers is astounding.

8Lug

Sounds like you and I typically like similar cars. I've only had rear wheel drive sport cars my entire life before buying the Turbo. I value handling and road feel over power. I have more fun in a Miata than in a Hellcat. I cursed AWD sports cars since I was in HS. The 911 Turbo changed all that for me. It's hard to explain, it just feels like a more complete car. Again, just suggesting people actually drive both since GTS prices are now approaching Turbo prices. If the GTS was at a $20k discount to the Turbo then I think it would be a pretty obvious choice. But when the prices are similar, it becomes a much tougher decision.

Dr.H

Color you don't see very often.
2006 C2 Mexico Blue Triptronic, 61k miles, $43k

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https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...RE-MEXICO-BLUE

Abe Froman

Valid point...but I think it lacks perspective. A 911 Turbo is a 911....people who buy 911s tend to be drivers, unlike the demographic who buys a base Panamera or 4 cylinder Macan.
Are Turbo owners as "Because, race car" as a GT2 RS buyer? Not at all but they're much closer than the aforementioned buyers.

ThomasCarreraGTS

Abe, I've got a different perspective than you then. There are many, maybe even a majority now, of 911 buyers who aren't drivers. Not on this forum for sure, but out of Porsche's total sales, the true drivers are few these days.

Manoverpdk

Please define "true drivers".
Is track time necessary to be a "true driver" ?
Does a targa or cab or PDK disqualify one as a "true driver"?
I am not attempting to be sarcastic, but just looking for sincere clarification as to how many may feel here.
Are you referring to passion (regardless of power of the vehicle) rather than a transportation appliance ?

ThomasCarreraGTS

I'm sure "drivers" know they are drivers. And I'm equally sure the overwhelming majority of people on forums like this one consider themselves drivers of one type or another. Then there are the people who simply shop badges so they can brag that they drive a "Porsch" or a "Beemer". C'mon, surely you know what we're talking about.

lexhair

What does that mean for someone who has a 911 AND a base Panamera 4? Asking for a friend.

Abe Froman

Your "friend" is a driver who is practical and possesses good taste?

raidersfan

Someone who buys a 911 because of the driving characteristics and heritage would be my definition of a driver.

Plenty of people drive bad-*** 911s though that are simply doing so because they like the looks of the car or want to show off. Like the lady who, when commented on how gorgeous her bumblebee GT3 RS 991.2 looked, responded "this old thing?" Or the woman who drives her 992 C4S around with the spoiler stuck in the upwards position. I see her 5x a week, or used to before CV. Always with the spoiler stuck up.

Abe Froman

I think *generally* people driving older sports cars are more likely to be "drivers" while people driving the latest and greatest are trying to project an image.
That GT3 RS lady sounds like she was trying to be modest and self-deprecating:-)
Man we got off-topic!

Doug H

Any lady driving a GT3 RS is okay in my book.

admranger

The red GTS with red gauges and belts is a beauty! A year too early for my current buying schedule...