Ultimate Integrated Dry Sump UIDS v2.2
#841
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The proven extreme use case of my mount so far has been @De Jeeper using an AIM Solo 2 off a RAM 3" arm attached to the B mount insert. Looks like the AIM MXS is quite a bit heavier (530 vs 240 grams). Position is less likely to slip with the B mount vs the 17mm. Bigger concern is probably it being too much weight the OEM plastic plug-in nut in the dashboard, but I'm sure you have plenty of those laying around. I did spend a little time looking for a similar sized metal plug-in nut, but wasn't able to find anything at the usual places like McMaster.
Skip as a refference on the yaz mount. It supports the aim solo dl2 fine but im not sure u want to go heavier. Mine weighs 11oz with the adaptor. U may be better off adapting a Ram mount winshield suction cup.
Also i upgraded my telemtry this year so we will be able to side by side the g-data and oil pressure of a c2 mezger if u can get some numbers from Watkins or either track at njmp. Thats were ill mostly be this year.
Also i upgraded my telemtry this year so we will be able to side by side the g-data and oil pressure of a c2 mezger if u can get some numbers from Watkins or either track at njmp. Thats were ill mostly be this year.
A 3" arm is a lot of leverage even with only 11oz.....I will be using a direct mount of ~1/2" ,so 6 times less leverage ....The MXS has rubber mounts left and right on the back, I'm thinking a simple torsional cantilever style will be created by using only the two right hand rubber mounts . That way the weight of the MXS when shock loads occure from bumps won't be directly aplied to the 17mm ball mount..but rather absorbed in an arch motion ( like some of the old timey shock absorber set-ups) ... If the mount can hold up 1lb 10oz "static load" ( and I'm positive it will ) it will be good... And since I need a shelf for the GPS Sensor I'm thinking a simple "L" bracket with one padded leg to sit on top of the dash for the GPS to sit on and to stop any rotation/torsional motion...the other leg will mount to the 1/2" long 17mm ball socket and to the two rubber mounts on the back on the MXS..
17mm ball socket
Vanmass phone holder
Here is a pic of where the oil pressure port is on bank 1 head...it is right next to the coolant tank....
oil pressure port on bank !
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#842
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To get this thread back on track ....I will restate what this thread is about....
It's about an Invention that will produce the same effects as a "Dry Sump System" ( Specifically Daileys) in a 996 without ;;;
1 ...having a tank that Is mounted 10 feet away
2... has 50ft of lines and numerous connections
3 ..has an exposed "rubber belt" to drive the oil pump...
4 ...doesn't cost $6K
The UIDS already proves better in lateral G than the Mezger Dry Sump and with the updates will equal the performance of any dry sump on the market without the deficiencies of the dry sump....There is quite a few reasons Dry Sumps are not used in most production cars....
It's about an Invention that will produce the same effects as a "Dry Sump System" ( Specifically Daileys) in a 996 without ;;;
1 ...having a tank that Is mounted 10 feet away
2... has 50ft of lines and numerous connections
3 ..has an exposed "rubber belt" to drive the oil pump...
4 ...doesn't cost $6K
The UIDS already proves better in lateral G than the Mezger Dry Sump and with the updates will equal the performance of any dry sump on the market without the deficiencies of the dry sump....There is quite a few reasons Dry Sumps are not used in most production cars....
#844
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Thanks Kris, I'll put it on my calender, I want to get as many different sump comparisons as I can by schedualing the Loan of the MXS to get data....
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Due to personal schedule i'm not on track until May 20/21
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OK...I'll put you on the calendar for weekend of May 20/21 ,
Last edited by Porschetech3; 01-16-2023 at 03:03 AM.
#848
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I guess my concern is statements that your setup is better than a factory dry sump. Being able to maintain pressure at 90 degrees is neat, but thats not exactly relevant for typical usage. Do you have pressure graphs for both set ups on track?
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#849
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I'm not bashing the Mezger dry sump I think it is fantastic and needs nothing , unlike the LS7 factory dry sump https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...mp-system.html
The data on the UIDS is posted with much more to come...( highest so far is 1.65 G untill there is a car than deliver more G ) with data on other availible sumps as well...
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Subscribed. Planning on starting to track my 996.1 this season, and was looking into any oiling system faults that will keep me from returning home via AAA. As of now, the LN Engineering kit was on my short list but, this looks very promising.
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Update ::
Progress continues but health issues continue to slow things but I won't go into deatils about that this time...
Here is more pics of the updated baffles...the lower 2" of the performations will have a rubber flap/reed valve attached and will have rubber seals riveted on the edges..
The AIM MXS 1.3 Data system mount is finished. I made two "L" brackets to help support the weight instead of putting all the weight on Yaz's supurb phone mount...The L brackets mount to the 17mm ball mount and also are padded on the bottom and sit on top of the dash with a "sling-shot" elasometer to a slip-under bracket at the dash back mounting..
It's wired to plug into the OBDII port to gat all engine data and the GPS is mounted to the top of the left "L bracket, then two patch cables will run up the "A" pillar and out the surroof down to the corner entry into the engine comaprtment for AIM oil pressure and oil temp..
The whole thing is plug-N-Play and be removed or installed in seconds save the sending units mounted to the engine.. I thinking of leaving the set on my engine and get a spare to send as the "loaners"..
It is already schedulaed for 8 track days of data gathering on FVD Sumps, BRS Sumps, Mantis Sumps and of course the UIDS on the second days..
Progress continues but health issues continue to slow things but I won't go into deatils about that this time...
Here is more pics of the updated baffles...the lower 2" of the performations will have a rubber flap/reed valve attached and will have rubber seals riveted on the edges..
The AIM MXS 1.3 Data system mount is finished. I made two "L" brackets to help support the weight instead of putting all the weight on Yaz's supurb phone mount...The L brackets mount to the 17mm ball mount and also are padded on the bottom and sit on top of the dash with a "sling-shot" elasometer to a slip-under bracket at the dash back mounting..
It's wired to plug into the OBDII port to gat all engine data and the GPS is mounted to the top of the left "L bracket, then two patch cables will run up the "A" pillar and out the surroof down to the corner entry into the engine comaprtment for AIM oil pressure and oil temp..
The whole thing is plug-N-Play and be removed or installed in seconds save the sending units mounted to the engine.. I thinking of leaving the set on my engine and get a spare to send as the "loaners"..
It is already schedulaed for 8 track days of data gathering on FVD Sumps, BRS Sumps, Mantis Sumps and of course the UIDS on the second days..
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#853
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Pretty sure you can't get oil pressure date through ob2. You need to wire it to the ecu. I have the mxm and bought it for data logging in the track and that's what I was told anyways.
#854
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You haven't been keeping up, I have a 10bar AIM oil presssure sender and a AIM oil termp sender and the UIDS has a Port already included for the AIM oil temp Sender...
The "patch cables" will go from the MXS up the "A" pilar out the sunroof into the deck lid and plug up to the senders for quick plug-n-play hook-up un-hook..
IE,,,; I got it covered....
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