Ultimate Integrated Dry Sump UIDS v2.2
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Porschetech3 (10-11-2022)
10-11-2022, 06:14 PM
#797
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Hey Houtx996 ...Fvck you.. is that coherent enough to address your insinuations and not answering ANY of my questions to you???
Now...maybe we can get back to "technical solutions" ......
10-11-2022, 06:33 PM
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Right !!! Anyone with a sane mind that knew ANYTHING would say HELL YES ..THAT GREEN LINE IS 10X BETTER THAN THE DARK RED ONE....AT THE MOST DANGEROUS ROAD COURSE IN AMERICA.....ROAD AMERICA......
And I'm not done yet........
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10-11-2022, 06:48 PM
#800
ok seems like your cooling down a little and now capable of having logical conversation. So the inversion is from the oil sloshing and you believe the new baffles will solve this?
10-11-2022, 07:10 PM
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I do not care to have a conversation with you..I despise your trolling attitude/method, it is the same as Slakker was doing in the UAOS thread..
Are you trolling on purpose??? Is that your MO ???
Do YOU think I can solve this dip ??
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10-11-2022, 07:40 PM
#802
There is no "inversion" ....stop insinuating there is.....
I do not care to have a conversation with you..I despise your trolling attitude/method, it is the same as Slakker was doing in the UAOS thread..
Are you trolling on purpose??? Is that your MO ???
Do YOU think I can solve this dip ??
I do not care to have a conversation with you..I despise your trolling attitude/method, it is the same as Slakker was doing in the UAOS thread..
Are you trolling on purpose??? Is that your MO ???
Do YOU think I can solve this dip ??
10-11-2022, 07:43 PM
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Skip ignore the banters all they are doing is belittling your work I don’t t see another manufacturer trying to better a vintage car as much as you have
just ignore them and continue your good work
just ignore them and continue your good work
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10-11-2022, 09:05 PM
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If I have to get down in the mud and the blood then so be it...
But their posts are always so full of twists, back handed remarks ,insinuations, or sometimes even agreement and flattery mixed in that they are hard to unwind..
A good technical discussion/debate will always start out simple and concise...then lead to deeper and deeper understanding..
This is all I got from all that BS trolling ..
If he had said that to start with in stead of this...
whats happening here? Why is it inversed from the comparison plot? similar inversion occurs towards the end. Is the timing off or data is accidently inversed, something else?
Edit:
If you shift that green plot to the left it seems to line up, across the data set, granted it's less extreme, but still present...seems like it could be a logging error.
Then this one may have went differently....but as for the others.....
Trolling - Urban Dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.com › define › term=Troll...Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly
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10-11-2022, 10:10 PM
#805
That's some solid selective editing of my quote. One more marketer blocked. That's the type of person that would manipulate the data.
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10-11-2022, 10:29 PM
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Ha !!!
This is my "technical account"......My "marketing account" has the UIDS Logo on it..., you will KNOW when/if I go into marketing mode
I think we should have "Rennlist Troll Certificates"...and vote.....I'm pretty sure you would win one....
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10-12-2022, 01:45 AM
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We have plenty of trols here on rennlist. Its the law of averages.
But no reason to slow progress towards finding the next generation of solutions for the m96. Keep pushing.
But no reason to slow progress towards finding the next generation of solutions for the m96. Keep pushing.
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10-12-2022, 03:10 PM
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I'm going to regret this...
There's some seriously thin skin here.
Skip, I love and appreciate your work here immensely (Own the UAOS), but maybe take a break to calm down?
He was trying to bring the thread back on track with a technical/performance clarification question.
Your current reaction:
But if we go back, you could have just clarified an earlier comment, or pointed directly to it:
Excellent. Question addressed.
Everyone have a great day!
There's some seriously thin skin here.
Skip, I love and appreciate your work here immensely (Own the UAOS), but maybe take a break to calm down?
Your current reaction:
There is no "inversion" ...no correlation
I do not care to have a conversation with you..I despise your trolling attitude/method, it is the same as Slakker was doing in the UAOS thread..
Are you trolling on purpose??? Is that your MO ???
Do YOU think I can solve this dip ??
I do not care to have a conversation with you..I despise your trolling attitude/method, it is the same as Slakker was doing in the UAOS thread..
Are you trolling on purpose??? Is that your MO ???
Do YOU think I can solve this dip ??
Everyone have a great day!
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10-12-2022, 06:34 PM
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To increase the momentum and improve the chances of keeping this thread on the matter at hand let me post my thoughts with regards to the observation that coming out of corners, i.e. lat.acc. decaying back to zero, there is a pressure drop.
I believe it's a consequence of the 'corner inside facing' port having been drained of oil when building up the lateral acceleration turning into the latest corner.
When lat.acc goes back to zero (iow the car straightens) the ball valve opens the (formerly) corner inside port but oil has not filled the port yet. Air will be entering the pump from this port and no longer the oil from the other port as air has lower viscosity than oil. Only after oil has flowed into this port too, oil instead of air will.enter the pump.
However, looking at the video of v3.3 with sail baffle https://youtu.be/r7ig-VpxMwE I see that the oil moves quicker than the ***** and oil enters the port before the ball valve opens that port.
But even so, I see a possibility that an air pocket is trapped in the space below the ball valve (as it sits slightly higher than the tunnel/port).
This air pocket can go only one way and that is enter the pump thus causing the observed pressure drop.
I see two possibilities to mitigate this risk of air pockets.
1. Put the ball at the entry of the port. That way oil is held inside the port as soon as lat.acc forces the ball to close that port.
2. Lower the ball valves to the bottom of the tunnel and get rid of the space where air can become trapped by oil rushing in from the side and below. This would reduce the risk but I don't think it would mitigate it entirely when a transition through 'the esses' happens quickly.
Perhaps the air pocket is of such small volume that it doesnt explain the observed pressure drop (its duration to be precise) and it is actually oil bleeding out of the sump through the holes Skip pointed out earlier and his countermeasures against this prove effective against the observed pressure drops when the car straightens after a corner.
I believe it's a consequence of the 'corner inside facing' port having been drained of oil when building up the lateral acceleration turning into the latest corner.
When lat.acc goes back to zero (iow the car straightens) the ball valve opens the (formerly) corner inside port but oil has not filled the port yet. Air will be entering the pump from this port and no longer the oil from the other port as air has lower viscosity than oil. Only after oil has flowed into this port too, oil instead of air will.enter the pump.
However, looking at the video of v3.3 with sail baffle https://youtu.be/r7ig-VpxMwE I see that the oil moves quicker than the ***** and oil enters the port before the ball valve opens that port.
But even so, I see a possibility that an air pocket is trapped in the space below the ball valve (as it sits slightly higher than the tunnel/port).
This air pocket can go only one way and that is enter the pump thus causing the observed pressure drop.
I see two possibilities to mitigate this risk of air pockets.
1. Put the ball at the entry of the port. That way oil is held inside the port as soon as lat.acc forces the ball to close that port.
2. Lower the ball valves to the bottom of the tunnel and get rid of the space where air can become trapped by oil rushing in from the side and below. This would reduce the risk but I don't think it would mitigate it entirely when a transition through 'the esses' happens quickly.
Perhaps the air pocket is of such small volume that it doesnt explain the observed pressure drop (its duration to be precise) and it is actually oil bleeding out of the sump through the holes Skip pointed out earlier and his countermeasures against this prove effective against the observed pressure drops when the car straightens after a corner.
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