Marv

Along with tires, suspension is going to be one of the biggest improvements over the years.

The good news is, newer tires can be put on just about any car to improve handling.

parris

Exactly. I know that we love our cars... but at the end of the day, they are 25 years old, and that is a huge leap in automotive technology (engines, chasis, electronics, tires, etc)

Going back to the topic...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...arrera-4s-103/

37K miles... 3900 engine hours... 9,6mph average...
And nobody even mentioning it in the bid... Let's discuss...

3/98 911 coupe

so the suspensión on my turbo it’s modified a bit but not as radical as in the 996 coupe. Now the turbo at max 0.8-0.9 boost is making 500 hp. That’s a lot faster than a regular 996tt. I don’t want to blow my engine, but I’m getting conflicting stories about how much can you get out of these Mezger engines safely. The two big theories right now, Jake Raby FSI dont go over 1.1 bar boost, the general 996 turbo forum gurus, 1.3 bar boost Is safe on thiese engines. When I’m out in the 99 all the comments I get is cool, old school. When I’m out in the turbo everyone wants to race me. So far i haven’t lost a single race. We’ll see. Yes that Honda is an example of going fast cheap, with a few mods the 996tt as it is an older car will smoke the honda.

brontosaurus

Not to make any sort of speculations as to if the odo has been touched, but man, I would have put a new center console in that thing and cleaned up the interior a bit before listing. Graphite Grey wears so poorly..

I would love to see the whole 996 lineup benchmarked again on Cup2s. Tire tech has come a long way over 20 years.

peterp

He's probably running one of those "safe driver" monitoring apps from his insurance company.

Sure, he may not be getting the most out of his 911, but his insurance rates are spectacular!

parris

At least he has posted a reading from the DME. Because most 996 sales in BaT go to the end without nobody asking for a DME report and if so, it looks like people just care about over revs

I know the US market is driven mainly by milleage (even over spec or status or maitenance), but I would always require a DME report of these cars to check the engine hours.

peterp

Definitely agree -- the console is horrible and the car should have been at least lightly detailed or at least vacuumed -- the rest the car seems nice. Those "easy to fix" flaws can create bargain opportunities for buyers, assuming nothing else is wrong.

I would have also removed the clear dealer decal off of the center of the rear bumper -- not in prep for sale, but 5 seconds after first seeing it . Then I would have slapped the salesperson silly . I can't recall any dealer placing decals or emblems on any 911 of any vintage ever. The dealer has *****, I'll give them that.

philbert996

That has to be rolled back.
Something tells me it’s the 11 years and only 5K miles it spent in Arkansas.

The best part is people commenting “good DME report” on BAT.

philbert996

OT
That 37K mile BAT C4S really really shows the difference in the quality of the early build interiors vs the later ones.

My Graphite Grey interior is 5 years older with twice the mileage. (IMO that C4S is probably closer to 100K miles)

redlineblue

Hope you don't mind if I raise this question Over There. Given the appetite for DME reports on our cars, it's worth sharing your inclination to, y'know, actually analyze the data.
Let's see what happens!

golock911

The DME report has a different VIN. Which means the cluster has been replaced. This mileage and over-rev info is not valid.

GC996

5 service records, no imsb replacement unless I missed it. May be a great car but alot if questions that the owner needs to answer.

pulpo

wow! so many red flags. I was only going to add that its possible he is one of those drivers that does an excessive warm up period. Turns his car on outside, goes back in for breakfast...

so many reasons not to buy that car

Absolutely should all be shared on BaT. future owner deserves answers.

theprf

At 0.8 to 0.9 bar you're making more like 450HP. While Mr. Raby may be the ultimate expert on the M96/M97 platform, he is not the ultimate expert on the GT engine platform.

e30rapidic

Cluster must have been pulled from this car so the mileage has obviously been changed. But that has no baring on whether it was updated t the correct mileage.
Free VIN check for 2002 PORSCHE 911 WP0AA29992S624157 (epicvin.com)

Also the A9635 transmission type in the DME report indicates a Tiptronic..... Which is extra wild because I could never get my Tiptronic cluster to work right after I swapped in the manual transmission I had to source and send a manual cluster out and have the mileage corrected.




correct transmission type on the sticker though.