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Logically, since a rebuild will cost between 20-30k, and eventually all 996s will need a rebuild, it would make sense to pay a premium knowing you will have another 20+ years of operation. But what about a rebuild by a reputable engine builder that also boosts performance by 80-100 HP? Should be even more.
Many people have told me that the engine doesn't make a difference in price. Crazy if you ask me since I'd rather have the more reliable and fast car over the one with cool paint and interior options. In fact, there is a car local to me listed only on the local PCA website that I find to be an amazing deal considering the modifications, including a 3.8L Street Performer engine: https://pcaucr.org/classifieds/show-...r-sale-wanted/
I always look for FSI cars on BaT, but they are few and far between. The only way I'd part with mine would be if it was absolutely necessary for my family, and in that case it would be hitting BaT no reserve.
Many people have told me that the engine doesn't make a difference in price. Crazy if you ask me since I'd rather have the more reliable and fast car over the one with cool paint and interior options. In fact, there is a car local to me listed only on the local PCA website that I find to be an amazing deal considering the modifications, including a 3.8L Street Performer engine: https://pcaucr.org/classifieds/show-...r-sale-wanted/
I always look for FSI cars on BaT, but they are few and far between. The only way I'd part with mine would be if it was absolutely necessary for my family, and in that case it would be hitting BaT no reserve.
The people who think the engine shouldn't impact the price have never driven a car with a FSI engine. I took advantage of this quirk in the market and acquired my 997.2 4s FSI 4.0L Stage II at what was I believe FMV for a similar car with just a stock engine. One of the best decisions I have ever made. "Buy it when you can, not when you have to" is a common expression in my line of work. It applies to car buying as well to some degree.
Last edited by Optionman1; 07-29-2021 at 04:46 PM.
Many people have told me that the engine doesn't make a difference in price. Crazy if you ask me since I'd rather have the more reliable and fast car over the one with cool paint and interior options. In fact, there is a car local to me listed only on the local PCA website that I find to be an amazing deal considering the modifications, including a 3.8L Street Performer engine: https://pcaucr.org/classifieds/show-...r-sale-wanted/
I always look for FSI cars on BaT, but they are few and far between. The only way I'd part with mine would be if it was absolutely necessary for my family, and in that case it would be hitting BaT no reserve.
What a deal for 44k. Everything critically important for 20 more years of operating has been done. Now it's just about annual maintenance with occasional non-engine related replacements.
I suspect, the market will eventually figure out a premium value for a solid engine rebuild. Just too early right now in the 996 Renaissance.
What about that Turbo with 1M+ miles on its original Mezger, and the 996 Carreras here cracking 500K+??
In that context, and at the rate I weekend drive mine, they will probably never need a rebuild 🤑
In my experience, if you drive them hard, they will break. I currently need to get a third engine for my 2001 Base Carrera, the car is just too fun not to fix it. I wish the FSI Knowlege Group guys would advertise their work. A year or more to get a Raby Built FSI engine is a long time to wait.
Some waits are worth it. You can still drive your car until it needs to be shipped to Georgia, so you're only without it for a few months.
And for some of us it's just a second car. Should anything happen to mine, waiting a year would be okay. It'd suck to look at in the garage not being able to drive it, but wouldn't be end of the world, when end of the day you get a world class engine rebuild.
The people who think the engine shouldn't impact the price have never driven a car with a FSI engine. I took advantage of this quirk in the market and acquired my 997.2 4s FSI 4.0L Stage II and what was I believe was FMV for a similar car with just a stock engine. One of the best decisions I have ever made. "Buy it when you can, not when you have to" is a common expression in my line of work. It applies to car buying as well to some degree.
If 996 demand continues to grow, and it acquires more influential owners/moders like Magnus and others, we will eventually see a "Singer" like shop that will offer a completely reconditioned 996 with the best of everything including an engine that addresses every known issue with durability and eye popping power, an upgraded interior, suspension modifications, exterior enhancements, etc.
It may go for big bucks, but there will be a huge demand. Can't overstate how good the car has aged and how great of a chassis it is to build from. What more can you ask for?
But yes, to your point, a 996 with a rebuilt engine by a reputable builder should go for a premium over a car with; all service records and all of the necessary things done over its life; which should go for a premium over a garage queen with no service records; which should go for a premium over a 996 that has no service records and is in crappy shape. There is a pecking order that will develop.
Markets haven't figured this out yet. But they will.
If 996 demand continues to grow, and it acquires more influential owners/moders like Magnus and others, we will eventually see a "Singer" like shop that will offer a completely reconditioned 996 with the best of everything
Folks this is already happening UK and elsewhere. US lags seriously behind ROW on the 996 appreciation curve, as ROW never got hung up an extra ten years on the insipid "those headlights!!!" controversy instigated by circa-2000 Beverly Hills Porsche customers in the United States.
In fact, ROW watched as McNish crossed the LeMans finish line in a 996 GT1, and immediately embraced the subsequent 996 Carrera as a NA GT1 derivative that same year. While U.S. Porsche customers remain to this day blissfully ignorant of Porsche Motorsports.
"And wisdom is justified by her children" -Luke 7:35...
Folks this is already happening UK and elsewhere. US lags seriously behind ROW on the 996 appreciation curve, as ROW never got hung up an extra ten years on the insipid "those headlights!!!" controversy instigated by circa-2000 Beverly Hills Porsche customers.
In fact, ROW embraced 996 Carrera design as a NA GT1 derivative.
"And wisdom is justified by her children" -Luke 7:35
Love what RPM is doing. Got my eye on their ducktail. Just waiting for more USD strength to make the price more attractive. Ever since Ruff produced pictures of a 996 with a ducktail, I have been hooked on the look. RPM took up the banner and ran with it.
07-29-2021, 06:48 AM
