Having better turn in to the lot at Cars and Coffee is totally worth $20k more.

 

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I think the biggest downside risk for the 992.1 (that no one is talking about) is that the 992.2 Carreras could get the GT3 multi-link suspension up front. That would be a meaningful difference. I guess it probably won't, given the complete lack of foreshadowing.[/QUOTE]


Probably very unlikely that they reworked the entire front end of the cars for a mid cycle refresh. If it happens it will come with the next refresh.

 

Agree. Highly unlikely.

And all joking aside, how noticeable is the turn-in of a GT3 compared to say a GTS? I know the 911 crowd makes a big deal of a-arm suspension but it's nothing new in the car world. The GT3 as a whole car is a tuned car but how much of its different feel is due to these arms and how much is psychosomatic?

 

Wildly, incredibly, ridiculously different considering to the casual observer the cars look nearly identical. The GT3 is much, much pointier – by the time you've finished thinking about turning the steering wheel the car has already changed direction. I can't say how much of it is due to the suspension configuration (e.g. double wishbone vs strut) versus the steering rack and suspension tuning, but my GTS's turn in is borderline lethargic in comparison to the GT3s I've driven at PECATL.

And for what it's worth, I've specified a very aggressive alignment on mine to get great turn in and rotation under braking for autocrossing. No clue how PEC handles it, but I'd assume they're just using factory specs.

 

I haven’t driven both, but some assumptions are clearly accurate.
- The GT3 is going to be better with the wishbones.
- The GT3 alignment is more aggressive from the factory
- The GTS will get closer to the GT3 if you align both to the same specs
- No way to accurately tell the real difference unless someone has aligned the cars identically, put on same tires, and drove them back to back on the same road

 

Not noticable on public roads. Significantly different on track, especially on high speed corners.

Highly unlikely Porsche would change the front suspension of the non GT models, as they're not meant to be track focused.

 

The steering on the 992 GT3 vs any other Porsche is night and day. The caveat is you have to really pay attention just driving around town because EPS drowns out the small imperfections but that double wishbone comes in and suddenly darts your steering wheel around. Double wishbone with hydraulic steering is bliss because you feel everything without the surprises.

 

Yeah, dismissing the difference as "not noticeable on public roads" is wholly incorrect. Perhaps not noticeable to someone who doesn't have arms, or someone who only drives in a straight line...

Or it's just copium/delusion.

 

Nothing new about double wishbone suspension; Porsche saying the GT3 setup is radical amuses me. Maybe they should be saying 'we made the strut setup work as well as we could and gave up'.

 

Ha, good one, last posts about the “secret specs” were a good laugh.

I think what hapened though is that they have invited the other guy and his GM to honor them for trying to contol, question and keep the ultra important porsche sacred spec secrets from prospective customers.

 

The difference in the feeling at town speed levels are merely due to quicker steering rack ratios, finer tuning of the hydraulic system, etc.

Like I said, to fully appreciate the performance of DWB, you would have to take the car to its limits on track. Hence, it will only be available on GT models.

 

So your allocation locks around the 10th of June, does this mean you are getting a July production car?

I am guessing - is this is a base?

Are you based in Europe or US?

 

Latest GTS speculation
3.6L
541bhp
619Nm

 

This was sarcasm….

 

Fxxx, somehow I missed it since the first allocations will truly lock mid June - if schedule is kept.