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I have checked my TYD status about 20 times today to make sure they didnt take away my 992.1 Targa 4 GTS allocation with a manual. Never in my life have I been so excited to have an older model. I also can no longer access the older configurator even though my freeze date isnt until 7/2! First world problems and also probably best so I dont keep agonizing over my choices!
I agree with this. I understand economies of scale, but why is the 911 sharing interior characteristics with the Taycan, Panamera?
The 911 is supposed to be the marquee. The 911 should have an exclusive interior. High end Ferraris dont steal the Romas interior.
A very significant portion of the 911 is shared with the 718 (Boxter/Cayman). Literally, the frame is both a rear-engined and mid-engined platform used for both cars. Most of the parts in the 718 have part numbers starting with 992-.
Ostensibly, the interior and exterior parts are different, but I guess it gets expensive to design, develop, test, and manufacture fully unique interiors and exteriors, so they try to share more and more across models.
I agree with this. I understand economies of scale, but why is the 911 sharing interior characteristics with the Taycan, Panamera?
The 911 is supposed to be the marquee. The 911 should have an exclusive interior. High end Ferraris dont steal the Romas interior.
Originally Posted by Crusje
German efficiency and cost cutting. Nothing different than what bmw is doing where all the interiors look the same.
Originally Posted by PSPorsche
A very significant portion of the 911 is shared with the 718 (Boxter/Cayman). Literally, the frame is both a rear-engined and mid-engined platform used for both cars. Most of the parts in the 718 have part numbers starting with 992-.
Ostensibly, the interior and exterior parts are different, but I guess it gets expensive to design, develop, test, and manufacture fully unique interiors and exteriors, so they try to share more and more across models.
Isn't that what I said when I mentioned BMW all have the same interior? Plus that's pr speak. We all know that "familiarity and consistency" means using parts bin components to save costs.
The take rate on Porsche manuals ( 911 and 718) is 40%, most of it in the US. Porsche tried to get rid of the manual in the GT3, which lead to 911R, which led to the Touring and of course manual options in the GT3. Have no fear, Porsche know its market, even if they appear to go in one direction, if the chorus is loud enough - and it will be, theyll keep making manuals as long as people want them and regulations allow them to do so.
If I had to bet, I'd say there will be manual GT cars and it sounds like the rumored manual Turbo variant would make sense. I am less confident there will be a manual T model as I think Porsche may see an opportunity to drive bigger dollar sales in the higher trims. The manual will be the siren song for the well-heeled old school die-hards. The younger generation of buyers may be less loyal to or motivated by the manual transmission. I don't think there is any technical or regulatory reason why they couldn't offer a manual T, unless the next level Euro emissions rules somehow make it problematic, just not sure it makes business sense. It might depend on pricing and volume expectations for the rumored Turbo manual model. If it is mega bucks and ultra low volume that leaves a lot of room for a manual T at the other end.
Isn't that what I said when I mentioned BMW all have the same interior? Plus that's pr speak. We all know that "familiarity and consistency" means using parts bin components to save costs.
Left hand turn key will come back in the future with the $20k "heritage package" /s
I have checked my TYD status about 20 times today to make sure they didnt take away my 992.1 Targa 4 GTS allocation with a manual. Never in my life have I been so excited to have an older model. I also can no longer access the older configurator even though my freeze date isnt until 7/2! First world problems and also probably best so I dont keep agonizing over my choices!
I have a Targa 4 gts for the first week of October delivery. I was offered to switch to the 992.2. I passed
Em...
if the battery is 1.9kwh, and the electric motor is 53.6hp... Assuming 100% effiency and 100% charged battery, the battery ony last 1.9kwh / 53.6hp = 2.85217385 minutes = 171.130431 seconds.
Does anyone have an idea of when the new Targa 4 (base) will be coming!?
In one of the reviews, and it might have even been Frank saying it, I heard that there wouldn't be a base Carrera 4 anymore. I assume that means no more base Targa either (since all Targas are AWD). So this means for 992.2, the base Carrera will only be available as a RWD coupe or cabriolet.
If I see it again I will edit this post with the link.
Em...
if the battery is 1.9kwh, and the electric motor is 53.6hp... Assuming 100% effiency and 100% charged battery, the battery ony last 1.9kwh / 53.6hp = 2.85217385 minutes = 171.130431 seconds.
Apparently, the e-turbo is constantly recharging the battery via waste heat from the engine. Additionally, braking regen from the motor in the PDK keeps the battery topped off.
Even with this, after the 7 second Nürburgring run, the battery was essentially depleted.
However, Porsche claims the aforementioned recharging/regen is sufficient to ensure the battery maintains charge during normal street driving.