blepski

CarAholic

For my use case of the car (DD) I agree with you. So I am hoping it remains a turbo. Now if it's a weekend car I totally get the pull of the NA engine. My weekend car still has one and probably always will. It's not unlike Porsche to add another model

tourenwagen

Agreed. I've tuned turbo cars for years and the bang for the buck is unbeatable.

blepski

“It’s a massive effort [to develop the engine]. We believe in normally-aspirated engines, especially for cars in that niche – puristic cars. To be frank with you, we can use this engine in the future for other models maybe as well,” Preuninger added.

Quizzed about whether this meant the new engine could be used by non-GT models from Porsche, Preuninger responded “We have to see.”

This was back in 2019.....

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/07/po...-other-models/

ctdubl07

This news just reinforces my envy of all you driving the car you want. I placed my small deposit in May of 2021 for a C4S only to see each allocation window come and go. Here I sit waiting for my dealer to call me over the next few days with what should be the last "regularly" scheduled allocation drop for a 2022 model.
If nothing pops for me, then the next allocation drop, if I track previous years, will be late spring/early summer and those would be 2023 models produced just after the august shutdown.
Again, if Im tracking Porsche scheduling correctly, the detail (changes) of the coming years 911 model usually drop around the first week of April.
What a weird spot to be: waiting a year for a car that's 50/50 I get, seeing that a mid cycle refresh is already being test and will most certainly carry tantalizing changes, only to be now thinking "do I really want my 2022 allocation" because 60 days from now, I'll see that my car now has been upgraded via a model year change so what's a few more months wait!!

Lander911

If Porsche follows its normal cycle of 4 years for the .1 and 3 years for the .2, the 992.2 will be a 2024 model (at least in the US).

CodyBigdog

Be careful what you wish for, as “newer” (refresh) does not necessarily mean better? For example, if the bug-eye lights are for real, I would not want that car. Period. My take is - unless you know, for sure, what you are buying, the 992 is a LOT of money to spend based on “spied” images and the conjectured opinions expressed here and in the media.

Jaye Bass

My 992 usually has a 3 gauge cluster as I run mine in reduced mode after I'm sure that the oil has come up to temp.

blepski

100% In today's car market for me it seems that everything is one step forward and one step back. The 992 in general was no exception there and the 992.2 is likely to push on that front even further possibly with more "why? why? why?" screens / gimmicky tech along with more disjointed styling decisions. Let's just hope for a very mild refresh to go along with that rumored 4.0 engine!

CodyBigdog

Yep. If I was in the market, today, the ONLY new feature I would be looking for, in any refresh, would be a HUD. Sorely missing in a car of this caliber.

Most styling changes (such as moving the tail pipes, bug-eyed lights, etc) are simply cosmetic in nature, that will have minimal impact on the overall looks and drive ability of the car….and for that, no doubt, Porsche will jack the price up another couple of grand. No thanks.

As stated before, I don’t think there’s a strong business (financial) case for Porsche to push out yet another variant of the 992, with a 4.0L NA engine. They sell everything they can make, as it is. Outside of the existing GT3, I don’t see Porsche adding a 4.0L engine to any of the other 992 variants? Based on the 2020 interview with Hans Lange, the Porsche project manager for all GT cars, he seemed to indicate that the future will be either turbo or hybrid. But unless you are a Porsche insider, who really knows for sure?

icanthelpit

NA engines are gone in these cars just like air/oil cooled in 1997. We just gotta get over it...

sapman

I'm not a fan of Preuninger at all. His past back-pedaling has led me to distrust everything he says and he always came across as a bit too 'salesy' for me. A bit is expected, but it is too much. He seems like he is wheeled out to justify every GT car produced.

detansinn

I just don't understand why some people are clamoring for a car that will be slower than the current Base Carrera, gets worse gas mileage, and will be wheezy at altitude.

UncleDude

You don't have to understand, there are plenty of turbos to choose from! What's wrong with offering a NA 911 that a mere mortal could buy?

phow

Here is my take: Significant development went into the 4.0 and Porsche has stated that based on the 4.0's EU emissions compliance and ability to run on 3 cylinders, it will be used in models for years to come.

We know the 718 is going full electric around 2025. Porsche has stated that the 718 platform going electric is allowing for the 911 to remain 100% ICE for the rest of this decade (I believe that is the timeframe stated).

So if the 718 is going fully electric and the 911 range is remaining ICE, where does that leave the 4.0 that supposedly will be used for "years to come"? Will they continue to produce the GT4/Spyder and GTS as ICE cars alongside the fully electric 718's? I highly doubt it as the vehicle layouts would be totally different. That leaves the 911 range to be the best fit for this motor.

I'm not saying which model will get the 4.0 but to think Porsche will throw out a motor that currently passes EU emissions and is what enthusiasts have been asking for in a non-GT 911 is kind of crazy to me.

Oh, and I have a 718 GT4 and I would take that motor over the base 992 motor any day of the week. Zero competition.