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Old 02-03-2022, 07:00 AM
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So do we think the 992.2 is introduced as a MY23 or MY24? Porsche generally has a pretty strict seven year product cycle. Years 1 - 4 are the x.1 model, and years 5 - 7 are the x.2 model. Didn't the 992.1 start with MY19? That would mean the 992.2 should start with MY23.
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Originally Posted by hinckley
So do we think the 992.2 is introduced as a MY23 or MY24? Porsche generally has a pretty strict seven year product cycle. Years 1 - 4 are the x.1 model, and years 5 - 7 are the x.2 model. Didn't the 992.1 start with MY19? That would mean the 992.2 should start with MY23.
First 992.1 = MY20
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:34 AM
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It's going to be better than the 992.1 in every single microscopic way possible. Can't wait.
Every 911 generation is an improvement over the prior one, but I'm happy to be part of the 992 analog tachometer club.
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Looks good waiting for the T so may have to wait for the .2. Can't go wrong with either generation though.
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Old 02-03-2022, 09:21 AM
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A 4.0 ICE, a more aggressive final drive ratio, the GT3 PDK shifter and a few style hints would suit a lot of people to a T.
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Originally Posted by chuckbdc
A 4.0 ICE, a more aggressive final dive ratio, the GT3 PDK shifter and a few style hints would suit a lot of people to a T.
Porsche has been clear that all Carreras (Base S/GTS and ostensibly, the T) will be turbocharged. They’re not going to put a 4.0 NA engine in a T.

If there’s a T, it will be the Base engine with the S performance options (SPASM, RAS, etc) available along with LWB seats as an option. That is the T formula.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
Porsche has been clear that all Carreras (Base S/GTS and ostensibly, the T) will be turbocharged. They’re not going to put a 4.0 NA engine in a T.

If there’s a T, it will be the Base engine with the S performance options (SPASM, RAS, etc) available along with LWB seats as an option. That is the T formula.
You might be right. They would have to call in an R.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:06 AM
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People can speculate all they want, but it doesn’t change reality. The project leader for Porsche GT cars, Hans Lange, gives you a pretty good indication, in this interview from 2020, what direction Porsche is headed. Perhaps Hans is just blowing smoke? Who knows? That said, if I had my heart set on a 4.0L NA 992, I’d make my way to my Porsche dealership, right now, and get my name on the waiting list….or plan to buy a used GT3….because I don’t think they will be around much longer.

From a link I posted yesterday:

https://www.motordiction.com/latest/...o-turbocharged

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Originally Posted by hinckley
So do we think the 992.2 is introduced as a MY23 or MY24? Porsche generally has a pretty strict seven year product cycle. Years 1 - 4 are the x.1 model, and years 5 - 7 are the x.2 model. Didn't the 992.1 start with MY19? That would mean the 992.2 should start with MY23.
It says 2024 in the article so we have some time!
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Originally Posted by detansinn
Porsche has been clear that all Carreras (Base S/GTS and ostensibly, the T) will be turbocharged. They’re not going to put a 4.0 NA engine in a T.

If there’s a T, it will be the Base engine with the S performance options (SPASM, RAS, etc) available along with LWB seats as an option. That is the T formula.
Where has Porsche stated specifically that the new "T" will not be an NA? I ask because I'm still holding out hope that the 4.0 GT4 engine will find it's way into a 992 at a low to mid 100's price point either as a "T" or some other or new variant. I still don't love the 992 BUT that could be enough to entice me into one and I'd imagine many others as well.
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blepski
Where has Porsche stated specifically that the new "T" will not be an NA? I ask because I'm still holding out hope that the 4.0 GT4 engine will find it's way into a 992 at a low to mid 100's price point either as a "T" or some other or new variant. I still don't love the 992 BUT that could be enough to entice me into one and I'd imagine many others as well.
The T is a Carrera. I'd take the Base Carrera 3.0l turbocharged engine over that 4.0 GT4 engine. Compared to that NA engine, the turbocharged engine makes more torque everywhere and more horsepower until the top of the rev range. The difference in experience is more dramatic than the peak numbers would suggest. Why give that up for a rev limiter that's only 500RPM higher?

They dropped the NA 6cyl in the 718, because the 4cyl they designed for the Chinese market just didn't move 718s in the US.
Porsche has no trouble selling every 992 that they can build. Why would they want to make a slow one? What's the business case?
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Originally Posted by detansinn
The T is a Carrera. I'd take the Base Carrera 3.0l turbocharged engine over that 4.0 GT4 engine. Compared to that NA engine, the turbocharged engine makes more torque everywhere and more horsepower until the top of the rev range. The difference in experience is more dramatic than the peak numbers would suggest. Why give that up for a rev limiter that's only 500RPM higher?

They dropped the NA 6cyl in the 718, because the 4cyl they designed for the Chinese market just didn't move 718s in the US.
Porsche has no trouble selling every 992 that they can build. Why would they want to make a slow one? What's the business case?
Some people like the sound/feel more than the performance.
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Personally, I will always prefer the turbo engine over NA, for one simple reason….I can easily get a significant power/torque boost, when I feel that my current ride isn’t giving me enough exhilaration. I did that with my 2016 M4, and I’m now back in love…with only a tiny fraction of the cost ($1-2K) of getting a new ride.
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Originally Posted by blepski
Where has Porsche stated specifically that the new "T" will not be an NA? I ask because I'm still holding out hope that the 4.0 GT4 engine will find it's way into a 992 at a low to mid 100's price point either as a "T" or some other or new variant. I still don't love the 992 BUT that could be enough to entice me into one and I'd imagine many others as well.
Would you, sir, like to place a friendly wager on that?

I have about a million dollars burning a hole in my pocket that says you're wrong and the 992 T (if there is one) will be fitted with the same twin-turbo 3.0-liter flat-six-cylinder engine (aka 9A2 Evo) found in the rest of the 992 911 Carrera lineup.

I'll even give you 10:1 odds.

Deal?
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