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Until there is positive proof, current consensus is that you must order the optional silver exhausts tips or FAL to get the exhaust button on a T build, correct?
Just confirmed per my SA…via his Porsche rep……dash Sport exhaust toggle switch is available with silver exhaust tips as an option….otherwise the sport exhaust can be activated via the Sport Chrono dial or PCM….
I think this thread in general is anti-RAS (or at least it feels that way). There are a few that are fairly vocal about it. Nothing wrong with that. I would check RAS, but I could go without it as well. Having driven both and owned a T with RAS, I never felt any twitchiness or anything negative for that matter. Even when the back end broke loose on wet pavement, I had perfect control and it was predictable. I think going RAS or not is not going to change the joy of driving a 911. I just wanted to give my two cents here. Too much anecdotal evidence here (including mine). I would say drive both and see for yourself but unfortunately most folks don't have the luxury of time or the availability of cars. So gathering as much information as possible and then making an educated guess is the best way. And with that I leave you with this older video. I used to watch this guy's vids on youtube and I think he makes some good points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRPfRgUJkvc
While I sometimes (often?) do not agree with Janko, his reviews and videos are among my favorites. He is a true enthusiast, and his videos are insightful and very well produced.
While I sometimes (often?) do not agree with Janko, his reviews and videos are among my favorites. He is a true enthusiast, and his videos are insightful and very well produced.
Agreed. I don't agree with everything he says either but do enjoy his videos and insight, especially from a European perspective. Too bad he stopped doing them.
I watch every video review of Porsche products and read every article and I have yet to find that any reviewer has ever proposed that a Porsche 911,would have improved handling if the RAS was removed from a car. Specifically never for any GT car or Turbo etc.
if you want a 992 - 911 to feel like a 1970’s 911 then you should buy a vintage 911 and enjoy the feel of what a 140 hp in a small lightweight Porsche feels like. But that is not competitive with a modern 992 911 of today on a track or how it drives.
personally I order all the latest tech from Porsche - like lane change, lane keep and specifically RAS and chrono and so on. And I like all the airbags and other new safety systems a new 911 embodies.
if you want a tail happy car that swings the rear around on every mountain road corner than an old vintage Porsche is what you want.
I also believe a T with RAS will have more demand in the secondary market.
My only concession to the Porsche models of the past is a manual transmission and this T will likely be my last - kind of obvious the PDK is faster, more durable than a clutch but easier and if you want or work more driving on a mountain road the manual demands more attention. But I don’t want to end up in a ditch in a new $100,000 car and it is obvious that RAS will help you come back in one piece.
I agree with Janko. But when did he stop making videos? Why?
I watch every video review of Porsche products and read every article and I have yet to find that any reviewer has ever proposed that a Porsche 911,would have improved handling if the RAS was removed from a car. Specifically never for any GT car or Turbo etc.
if you want a 992 - 911 to feel like a 1970’s 911 then you should buy a vintage 911 and enjoy the feel of what a 140 hp in a small lightweight Porsche feels like. But that is not competitive with a modern 992 911 of today on a track or how it drives.
personally I order all the latest tech from Porsche - like lane change, lane keep and specifically RAS and chrono and so on. And I like all the airbags and other new safety systems a new 911 embodies.
if you want a tail happy car that swings the rear around on every mountain road corner than an old vintage Porsche is what you want.
I also believe a T with RAS will have more demand in the secondary market.
My only concession to the Porsche models of the past is a manual transmission and this T will likely be my last - kind of obvious the PDK is faster, more durable than a clutch but easier and if you want or work more driving on a mountain road the manual demands more attention. But I don’t want to end up in a ditch in a new $100,000 car and it is obvious that RAS will help you come back in one piece.
I agree with Janko. But when did he stop making videos? Why?
What you say resonates with my thoughts exactly. Not adding a certain tech feature because you want to keep the car 'pure' doesn't make much sense with all the tech in the cars today. I think it's mostly psychological. It also goes against the 'ethos' of the T if you ask me. Anyway....I think Janko stopped about 6 months ago when I saw this video:
You can watch all the videos you want. But few journalists will really say what is going on. I have not seen one review with and without RAS being compared to eachother from a well respected journalist. And given the data and examples I gave in my posts. I drive all the cars instead of reading about them.
Furthermore: would you be so kind and respond to my argument regarding the comparison with a GT3? Because it’s not an issue you have your own opinion. But it would be respectfull to not just shout out arguments but read what others have to say and respond to that as well.
03-03-2023, 02:56 PM
