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I watch every video review of Porsche products and read every article and I have yet to find that any reviewer has ever proposed that a Porsche 911,would have improved handling if the RAS was removed from a car. Specifically never for any GT car or Turbo etc.
if you want a 992 - 911 to feel like a 1970’s 911 then you should buy a vintage 911 and enjoy the feel of what a 140 hp in a small lightweight Porsche feels like. But that is not competitive with a modern 992 911 of today on a track or how it drives.
personally I order all the latest tech from Porsche - like lane change, lane keep and specifically RAS and chrono and so on. And I like all the airbags and other new safety systems a new 911 embodies.
if you want a tail happy car that swings the rear around on every mountain road corner than an old vintage Porsche is what you want.
I also believe a T with RAS will have more demand in the secondary market.
My only concession to the Porsche models of the past is a manual transmission and this T will likely be my last - kind of obvious the PDK is faster, more durable than a clutch but easier and if you want or work more driving on a mountain road the manual demands more attention. But I don’t want to end up in a ditch in a new $100,000 car and it is obvious that RAS will help you come back in one piece.
I agree with Janko. But when did he stop making videos? Why?
why stop with lane keeping and lane assist? There is so much more electronic stuff you could pile on it. 🤣
Why do I have the feeling that when someone makes their point and has a differing opinion than the masses, they are immediately attacked? Targa32 made generalizations but didn't attack anyone specifically. I've seen this before in this forum. Stay calm....
I can’t believe I forgot to think about this detail. Should have added it. Although I had it on my 991.2 GT3 and that car was purely track focused. My 992 T is not mainly for the track. Still that red detail would pop out pretty good.
Originally Posted by gargey
Hi guys, has anyone done interior trim in outside paint color?I normally wouldn’t go this route, but wondering if it would work for GT Silver, to lighten up the interior a little, since there are so few other trim alternatives.
I can honestly say that if there is one color where that interior trim in outside color works best, it’s the GT silver. No doubt at all so go for it!
Originally Posted by Zetta
I really enjoyed taking the pictures for you guys. I wish you all have a lot of anticipation while waiting for the T.
Thank you sir so much for confirming my hopes. I hoped Porsche would not make such a mistake. Appreciate all your help!
Originally Posted by Ikone
Why do I have the feeling that when someone makes their point and has a differing opinion than the masses, they are immediately attacked? Targa32 made generalizations but didn't attack anyone specifically. I've seen this before in this forum. Stay calm....
Don’t worry it’s just internet and words are often misunderstood. I just respectfully asked for a response to a claim he has made which I already have given an answer to. So either he is not reading things which seems a bit disrespectfull in a discussion, or he is intentionally not responding. Nothing to do with an opinion. I am just kindly asking for a response. Whatever that response will be.
Slight change of tack, but thought all you aficionados would enjoy this video out today about Singer, a company based in California that restores prev gen Porsches
My Build locks March 9. My '20 S is GT Silver, and my first build for my T was GT Silver. I flirted briefly with the beautiful color of Gentian Blue, then did about 4-5 configurations in White, including my current spec. Chalk has made a late surge, and it's now down to White v. Chalk. Thoughts?
So, what about sunroofs on the T? Some guys say it adds all this weight up high that they can "feel" around a corner. Or maybe the metal sunroof is the better choice for weight or looks over the more expensive glass sunroof. But then the glass lets more light in the cabin, and both let you see the treetops and hills around you on a mountain road. Then resell-- are cars with a sunroof easier to sell? OR perhaps with this DRVIERS car theme maybe too plush an option for the T making a car less desirable with a second owner? I optioned the gloss black Aero kit and also the glass sunroof as I thought they together create a black top look.
Y car locks on the 7th of March -- leaving me not too many days to make changes.
This picture is my inspiration for choosing White. I don't know who this person is, or who posted the picture, but I was immediately drawn to its vibe and simplicity. My Photos app shows an import date of March 14, 2021. That's how long I've had it. I hearted it as a Favorite. (I think I just talked this through and decided once and for all on white - thanks MacBoy).
This picture is my inspiration for choosing White. I don't know who this person is, or who posted the picture, but I was immediately drawn to its vibe and simplicity. My Photos app shows an import date of March 14, 2021. That's how long I've had it. I hearted it as a Favorite. (I think I just talked this through and decided once and for all on white - thanks MacBoy).
Would you agree those look like Satin Wheels?
Yes... Those are the Matte or Satin Black Wheels... For sure Not gloss black, and not the agate/titanium wheels either.
My Build locks March 9. My '20 S is GT Silver, and my first build for my T was GT Silver. I flirted briefly with the beautiful color of Gentian Blue, then did about 4-5 configurations in White, including my current spec. Chalk has made a late surge, and it's now down to White v. Chalk. Thoughts?
White is a color that you will always be able to order. Chalk, on the other hand, will certainly be phased out at some point and will only be available as PTS. So you would definitely have an advantage with Chalk here.
I watch every video review of Porsche products and read every article and I have yet to find that any reviewer has ever proposed that a Porsche 911,would have improved handling if the RAS was removed from a car. Specifically never for any GT car or Turbo etc.
I don't recall anyone making the argument that removing RAS would improve handling or that a non-RAS car handles better than a RAS equipped one. The argument is a matter of preference as RAS significantly changes the character of the car.
Originally Posted by Targa32
if you want a 992 - 911 to feel like a 1970’s 911 then you should buy a vintage 911 and enjoy the feel of what a 140 hp in a small lightweight Porsche feels like. But that is not competitive with a modern 992 911 of today on a track or how it drives.
I also don't recall anyone saying they want their new 911 to feel like a 70's 911. I and others have expressed a preference for a 911 that feels like a 911 (rear engine) and not a 718 (mid engine). Luckily, no one wanting to buy a modern 911 who wants the traditional rear bias needs to buy a vintage car. They merely have to skip the RAS checkbox. Your argument is as useless as me saying that if you want a 911 that feels like a 718, that you should buy a 718 when you can just add RAS to your 911 order and have exactly that.
Originally Posted by Targa32
personally I order all the latest tech from Porsche - like lane change, lane keep and specifically RAS and chrono and so on. And I like all the airbags and other new safety systems a new 911 embodies.
The great, or not so great depending on where you stand, thing about Porsche is that they now build a car for everyone from true enthusiasts to the cars and coffee set.
Originally Posted by Targa32
if you want a tail happy car that swings the rear around on every mountain road corner than an old vintage Porsche is what you want.
Again, what kind of comment is that? If someone wants a car that feels like a true rear-engined 911, they can just skip RAS.
Originally Posted by Targa32
I also believe a T with RAS will have more demand in the secondary market.
Depends on the buyer. Just as there are people who are actively not choosing RAS, there will also be people actively looking for sans-RAS cars in the used market.
Originally Posted by Targa32
My only concession to the Porsche models of the past is a manual transmission and this T will likely be my last - kind of obvious the PDK is faster, more durable than a clutch but easier and if you want or work more driving on a mountain road the manual demands more attention. But I don’t want to end up in a ditch in a new $100,000 car and it is obvious that RAS will help you come back in one piece.
I wonder how everyone who drove $100k sports cars at the limit on mountain roads didn't end up in a ditch... oh, that's right, SKILL!
I for one I'm not against RAS. Of course it makes the car faster at the limit. It was on my T build before and I may order it in the future since I already have a 911 with all the analog, rear-bias I can hope for. If there's anything I can contribute on the matter is the suggestion that people get clear about what they want before they click the checkbox because it does change the character of the car. If you want a traditional 911 with more rear bias that will challenge you and help you become a better driver, skip RAS. If you want the latest go-fast bits that make it easy for anyone to look like a hero at the track, by all means, get RAS.
03-03-2023, 05:14 PM
