Pivot

@VarTheVar have you been on skid plate at PEC?
They build you up to recover the 911 at ~20mph with progressively less tech assistance. It’s a crazy (good) experience. I learned to recover 992 up to 25mph, after that I was toast!
​​​​​​​So I will take the electronic aides any day! One can always disable it if not required on a track or some other drifting place.

Icegrill

I turned down a T and an S allocation from my local msrp dealership while my T was on the boat! That will mess with your mind for a little bit. I couldn’t stomach the thought of going through this process again for 5-6 more months!

* full disclosure this is the dealer that insisted it was at least 1-2 more years for each model from this last summer.

Dream in PTS

You should call around. The last distribution was the heaviest on S allocations we've seen in some time.

RatherJaded

I am SOL as I will only with deal with my local dealer and my SA that I have known for nearly 40 years. The flip side, they only sell at MSRP, including GT cars. Then there is the fact that my spec’ed T is inbound. 😂

VarTheVar

Yes I took delivery of my car at PECLA. It was super fun. My favorite was the polished concrete drift course: drifting the entire track and connecting all the turns. I also used to have a dedicated drift car back in the day.

The best part of the 911 is decreasing radius corners. Just go in hot, let off the throttle at the right time, and let the tail come out to tighten the radius. Sliding 911s is a ton of fun.

And no you can't disable all the electronic aids. Only PSM. And certainly not RAS if you happen to have that

Dream in PTS

I doubt you will feel SOL once your T arrives. In fact, I doubt you will care even one iota.

6sigma

​​​​​​​Car looks stunning! The ED wheels look great on black. I am considering them with white also. Hard to turn down the T specific wheels though - they do look good with the T trim. I think the ED wheels look best with the monochromatic colors and the T wheels look best with the other colors.

RatherJaded

I was referencing that I am SOL in regards to calling around as I am only willing to deal with one Porsche dealer, my local dealer. Therefore your suggestion of calling multiple dealers is simply not an option. I am loyal to the local guys and for several reasons in sales & service.

Winnetka

Beautiful color and it looks great with those stock wheels.

Winnetka

Nice looking car. I keep deliberating on the wheels but I'm sold, these are stunning. I ordered the stock T wheels but I'm going with these. The center caps are also nice, this is the way for me.

arrivederci

When he says freeing up a diff, more likely he means changing the tuning of the clutch packs, ramps etc in the diff. So it may allow more speed differential between wheels before engagement, or the ramp up is different...for both acceleration and deceleration. You can get a car to behave differently under power and under braking by tuning the diff. This can change the way a car turns in under decel and the slip angles that might be induced by the changed diff action. Same for accel, where it may carry a higher slip angle and in fact feel more alive and playful - something you of course have to manage. Yes you may want to adjust the tuning of the ABS, traction control, PASM, sway bars, PTV, etc along with the diff tuning to get the desired car behavior.

It is not fair to jump to that conclusion that freeing up a diff results in wheel spin and then the ABS and traction control has to manage it and now you have a fake LSD.

And I doubt it is anything close to an open diff. Either way, I'm generalizing the extremes here. A rwd car with a spool (locked diff) will understeer more through a corner when under power - both drive wheels try to push the car straight. A rwd car with an open diff (no locking) will oversteer more - inside wheel loses grip as it is unloads etc. And of course that's not factoring in any funny business from torque vectoring diffs.

Barkat03

PORSCHE 911 S/T DOES NOT HAVE RAS!!

Just been reading up on the S/T and every half decent publication / driver that’s reviewed it reckon it’s the best handling 911 for the road they’ve ever driven.
But is does not have RAS!!
Being described as the purists 911 and to stop buyers from flipping it they won’t let you own the car for the first year. They’ll only lease it to you.
They’ll wait 12 months to be sure you’ve been actually driving it and only then decide if you deserve their offer to buy it.

Pivot

Good point about not being able to disable all electronic kit.

At what speed were you able to recover the 992 on the skid plate? Did RAS make much difference?

I personally think that 992 is a beast without the electronic witchcraft. I read that the 992 base model is as quick as 996 Turbo, but of course more refined.

anythingbuttime

You may want to reread what I wrote.

anythingbuttime

Remember, that boat isn't a Porsche exclusive.