992 Carrera T Club
#5102
Rennlist Member
Who here has 992 experience with standard interior vs. leather interior and a frame of reference on the $4k add? I had a Taycan sedan with standard interior, and now a Taycan CT with full leather/extended package but different strokes somewhat re. dash, console, doors, back seats etc. I was definitely impressed by the upgrade but again I interact with the Taycan in a much different frame of reference and expectation of what I want. Anyways just ruminating on the option and wondering about what a sports car should/could look and feel like inside vs a 4-door wagon, and how to resolve those thoughts.
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#5103
Rennlist Member
#5104
Burning Brakes
Anyone on here deciding between wrapping as opposed to PPFing their car?
My OPD has just quoted me for PPF ...
'Full Coverage £6,777 ($8k) - Full hood, headlights, roof, A-Pillar, mirrors, rear fenders, rear bumper, rear bumper corner, doors, rocker panels, full fenders & full front bumper.
'Track Pack £3,500 ($4.2K) - Front PU, bonnet, wings, door mirrors, rear arches, head lights'
Sounds a lot?!
Collection date would be delayed a week from March 17th to 23rd.
My OPD has just quoted me for PPF ...
'Full Coverage £6,777 ($8k) - Full hood, headlights, roof, A-Pillar, mirrors, rear fenders, rear bumper, rear bumper corner, doors, rocker panels, full fenders & full front bumper.
'Track Pack £3,500 ($4.2K) - Front PU, bonnet, wings, door mirrors, rear arches, head lights'
Sounds a lot?!
Collection date would be delayed a week from March 17th to 23rd.
Last edited by Barkat03; 02-06-2023 at 03:28 PM.
#5105
Racer
Who here has 992 experience with standard interior vs. leather interior and a frame of reference on the $4k add? I had a Taycan sedan with standard interior, and now a Taycan CT with full leather/extended package but different strokes somewhat re. dash, console, doors, back seats etc. I was definitely impressed by the upgrade but again I interact with the Taycan in a much different frame of reference and expectation of what I want. Anyways just ruminating on the option and wondering about what a sports car should/could look and feel like inside vs a 4-door wagon, and how to resolve those thoughts.
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#5106
Who here has 992 experience with standard interior vs. leather interior and a frame of reference on the $4k add? I had a Taycan sedan with standard interior, and now a Taycan CT with full leather/extended package but different strokes somewhat re. dash, console, doors, back seats etc. I was definitely impressed by the upgrade but again I interact with the Taycan in a much different frame of reference and expectation of what I want. Anyways just ruminating on the option and wondering about what a sports car should/could look and feel like inside vs a 4-door wagon, and how to resolve those thoughts.
Most of the 992 base and S I see out in the wild do not have full leather interior. I think you will find that on Rennlist the % of 911 with full leather interior is a lot higher than in the real world.
For what it is worth, I have it on my T order and I had it on my 718 Spyder and Panamera Turbo. I thought about just going with the plastic dash but I think I will be disappointed when I get in it after seeing and feeling the quality of the leather finish on my other cars. I just wish we had all the color options from 991T... the dark gray is a bit underwhelming and the green is not for everyone.
#5107
Three Wheelin'
Anyone on here deciding between wrapping as opposed to PPFing their car?
My OPD has just quoted me for PPF ...
'Full Coverage £6,777 ($8k) - Full hood, headlights, roof, A-Pillar, mirrors, rear fenders, rear bumper, rear bumper corner, doors, rocker panels, full fenders & full front bumper.
'Track Pack £3,500 ($4.2K) - Front PU, bonnet, wings, door mirrors, rear arches, head lights'
Sounds a lot?!
Collection date would be delayed a week from March 17th to 23rd.
My OPD has just quoted me for PPF ...
'Full Coverage £6,777 ($8k) - Full hood, headlights, roof, A-Pillar, mirrors, rear fenders, rear bumper, rear bumper corner, doors, rocker panels, full fenders & full front bumper.
'Track Pack £3,500 ($4.2K) - Front PU, bonnet, wings, door mirrors, rear arches, head lights'
Sounds a lot?!
Collection date would be delayed a week from March 17th to 23rd.
https://diversityautofilms.com/ppf-a...he-difference/
#5108
Burning Brakes
Who here has 992 experience with standard interior vs. leather interior and a frame of reference on the $4k add? I had a Taycan sedan with standard interior, and now a Taycan CT with full leather/extended package but different strokes somewhat re. dash, console, doors, back seats etc. I was definitely impressed by the upgrade but again I interact with the Taycan in a much different frame of reference and expectation of what I want. Anyways just ruminating on the option and wondering about what a sports car should/could look and feel like inside vs a 4-door wagon, and how to resolve those thoughts.
One example is the plastic dash and door panels on the Taycan compared to what looks like the stitching in those areas on the T.
The overall interior quality of the T seems better than on the standard Taycan.
But the difference in price is 30k so you would expect to get a better quality interior on the T
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#5109
Every time I will look at the plastic dash and door panels of my T, I will just quietly remind myself of the Ethos 👍🏻
In all seriousness, I do agree with @rokkerkory that any vehicle that reaches a certain price point should have a nice dash and stitched door panels. It’s just something that never really was ultra important to me. Ditto the quality of interior plastics.
In all seriousness, I do agree with @rokkerkory that any vehicle that reaches a certain price point should have a nice dash and stitched door panels. It’s just something that never really was ultra important to me. Ditto the quality of interior plastics.
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#5110
I had the standard black interior on my last 992 C2... it was PERFECTLY FINE for me. Even with the standard interior, you get leather seats, leather wheel, leather door grabs... The rest really, in my opinion, looks totally normal and not crappy. The T build for me was about track/performance and lightweight fun... so I wouldnt want a full leather interior on this build... If I was going to order a Carrera 4S as a daily all year car, or if I was getting a Targa S or GTS where I've already blown the weight conversation with that roof, then I would totally opt for a full leather interior on those models... Just does not bother me enough to spend the money and add the weight for this particular build
I totally understand those that want a nicer interior, and those that feel a car at this price point should have it standard... It makes sense to me, but its never bothered me not having it.
I totally understand those that want a nicer interior, and those that feel a car at this price point should have it standard... It makes sense to me, but its never bothered me not having it.
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#5111
Burning Brakes
Every time I will look at the plastic dash and door panels of my T, I will just quietly remind myself of the Ethos 👍🏻
In all seriousness, I do agree with @rokkerkory that any vehicle that reaches a certain price point should have a nice dash and stitched door panels. It’s just something that never really was ultra important to me. Ditto the quality of interior plastics.
In all seriousness, I do agree with @rokkerkory that any vehicle that reaches a certain price point should have a nice dash and stitched door panels. It’s just something that never really was ultra important to me. Ditto the quality of interior plastics.
Why did they bother, they haven't done that in other Porsches?
In the configurator even the much more expensive 911 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, the dash and door panels don't have any stitching and (at least in the pic) look cheaper.
#5112
I have read that many have experienced leather separation or warping on the dashboard from the sun. I'm sure many will be lightning quick to point out theirs hasn't had any issues.
The standard T had leather steering wheel, armrest, the side panels of the seats, and center console. Those are all the areas that matter to me. Agreed that stitched leather dash is a beautiful thing,
but a plastic dash that has not had any leather warping or separation issues 10 years later is also a beautiful thing.
The standard T had leather steering wheel, armrest, the side panels of the seats, and center console. Those are all the areas that matter to me. Agreed that stitched leather dash is a beautiful thing,
but a plastic dash that has not had any leather warping or separation issues 10 years later is also a beautiful thing.
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#5113
I have a few observations on the leather interior:
- A sales associate told me that if you are buying a new 992, the standard dashboard is fine because you are not harmed on resale. At the same time, if you are buying a used 992, you should search for a leather dashboard because there is very little, if any, price differential
- The leather warping on the dashboard is real (based on my anecdotal observation). Once, while visiting PECLA, I walked through the rows of 992s in the parking lot and I noticed 2 of them with severely wrinkled leather on the dashboard. I found it alarming. These were cars customers brought in, not new deliveries.
- My personal thought is if you never sit in a full leather interior, you'll be completely satisfied. None of your passengers will ever notice the difference. However, when you go from the full leather interior to the standard interior... you'll ALWAYS notice the difference and it'll particularly sting on a ~150k USD car (after options/taxes/PPF/etc.)
#5114
Burning Brakes
My view on the interior is that if you’re buying a Targa or Turbo 992 then go upScale interior - these are lunch wagons and not designed to be super duper track cars. I have all the jazzy stuff in my 21’ Targa 4- even the $1,900 wood inside trim which looks great with the Bordeaux red dipped interior and full leather inside.
even has leather on the steering column and on the shades.
but on the T I have on order I believe the base T interior is fine. I did order the glass sunroof and lots of race- tex parts and pieces however as I think that stuff looks kind of “serious” more than just fancy.
on the hp - clearly if you are hp concerned why would anyone buy a S 911 and pay $20,000 extra and then fit it with a manual transmission. That slows the car down to the same speed as the base engine cars. If you are hp nuts - order the pdk in your T - which seems silly also as the T is more expensive than a base PDK car and as fast as an S car with a manual trans.
on the base vs S engines. I own a base engine Targa and I rented an s cabriolet for ten days in Europe. The difference in hp on the road was trivial. Getting on the freeway the base engine won’t let you stand on the accelerator for more than a tiny amount of time before your well over the speed limit. And on the freeway - well both cars travel alone just swell at 70-80 mph.
I can only tell the difference if I did launch control and the S is just a tiny bit faster than the base engine car.how often do any of you do the launch control truck? In fact I have never done it in my Targa.
this base 992 has as much hp as the S and turbos of just a few years back. Cheaper to upgrade the chip and exhaust on the base 992 if you just have to have 400 plus hp at the rear wheels.
I would rather have more options that I can see and use everyday in my Targa or my new 911 T than a few more hp.
also I found in the 992 S I drove for 15 days in Europe that it lags when you step on the gas. It definitely takes more time to build the turbos up to speed on the S than the base engine. Which makes sense as the S simply has larger diameter turbo blades …larger blades the longer it takes to get up and spinning. Once started it makes up for the delay and the big pause by leaping forward so I found the Base 911 is more fun to drive and feels sharper and I love the sound as well.
Lots of burbles and pops on downshifts with the base engine and it gets better sounding as you rack up the mileage. Even at 16,000 miles on my Targa 4 it is still improving the sound.
the T is the perfect 911 - if you want to drive it on the street and mountain roads but not everyday. No denying that for everyday driving in heavy traffic at 5pm the PDK is the only rational choice/ driving with a clutch pedal in stop and go traffic is just too much work and bad for the clutch as well.
I am glad I had the chance to drive a 911 992 S on the mountain roads in Switzerland and the Nurburgring and I am completely satisfied with the performance I will get out of a 911 T base engine.
The only change I would have done different is to have installed the 718 naturally aspirated 4 liter engine with just over 400 hp.
Porsche will no doubt will offer that next T car next year with the 718 GTS engine.
I should mention what I Don’t like about the naturally aspirated engine in the GT4 and the GTS 718 is that they don’t make any of the fun burbles and crackles on down shifting like the base engine 911. And their general sound is not as much fun or pleasant as the 911 engine noise.
my build for a T is up to $149,000 before taxes — but this is an aero kit car with the glass sunroof and 18 way seats and on and on but with the base T in python green with the base green interior. Amazing how it adds up.
even has leather on the steering column and on the shades.
but on the T I have on order I believe the base T interior is fine. I did order the glass sunroof and lots of race- tex parts and pieces however as I think that stuff looks kind of “serious” more than just fancy.
on the hp - clearly if you are hp concerned why would anyone buy a S 911 and pay $20,000 extra and then fit it with a manual transmission. That slows the car down to the same speed as the base engine cars. If you are hp nuts - order the pdk in your T - which seems silly also as the T is more expensive than a base PDK car and as fast as an S car with a manual trans.
on the base vs S engines. I own a base engine Targa and I rented an s cabriolet for ten days in Europe. The difference in hp on the road was trivial. Getting on the freeway the base engine won’t let you stand on the accelerator for more than a tiny amount of time before your well over the speed limit. And on the freeway - well both cars travel alone just swell at 70-80 mph.
I can only tell the difference if I did launch control and the S is just a tiny bit faster than the base engine car.how often do any of you do the launch control truck? In fact I have never done it in my Targa.
this base 992 has as much hp as the S and turbos of just a few years back. Cheaper to upgrade the chip and exhaust on the base 992 if you just have to have 400 plus hp at the rear wheels.
I would rather have more options that I can see and use everyday in my Targa or my new 911 T than a few more hp.
also I found in the 992 S I drove for 15 days in Europe that it lags when you step on the gas. It definitely takes more time to build the turbos up to speed on the S than the base engine. Which makes sense as the S simply has larger diameter turbo blades …larger blades the longer it takes to get up and spinning. Once started it makes up for the delay and the big pause by leaping forward so I found the Base 911 is more fun to drive and feels sharper and I love the sound as well.
Lots of burbles and pops on downshifts with the base engine and it gets better sounding as you rack up the mileage. Even at 16,000 miles on my Targa 4 it is still improving the sound.
the T is the perfect 911 - if you want to drive it on the street and mountain roads but not everyday. No denying that for everyday driving in heavy traffic at 5pm the PDK is the only rational choice/ driving with a clutch pedal in stop and go traffic is just too much work and bad for the clutch as well.
I am glad I had the chance to drive a 911 992 S on the mountain roads in Switzerland and the Nurburgring and I am completely satisfied with the performance I will get out of a 911 T base engine.
The only change I would have done different is to have installed the 718 naturally aspirated 4 liter engine with just over 400 hp.
Porsche will no doubt will offer that next T car next year with the 718 GTS engine.
I should mention what I Don’t like about the naturally aspirated engine in the GT4 and the GTS 718 is that they don’t make any of the fun burbles and crackles on down shifting like the base engine 911. And their general sound is not as much fun or pleasant as the 911 engine noise.
my build for a T is up to $149,000 before taxes — but this is an aero kit car with the glass sunroof and 18 way seats and on and on but with the base T in python green with the base green interior. Amazing how it adds up.
#5115
Rennlist Member
Attention future Ruby Star Neo owners, my dealer has a GT3 coming in about 7 weeks in that color. I plan to be there when it does to take pics! Is that the first Ruby we know of hitting the USA?
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