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Old 02-08-2023, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
I have heard the same. BTW, as for the Aero kit, I spoke with my SA on Monday and he told me if it's in now, it's accepted; we're locked. Period. We can only hope! Maybe they order/plan for a certain amount of Aero cars each year and when that number is hit, they stop. The only thing that's odd is why are people's cars delayed sometimes because of the Aero, which would sound more like a supply chain issue. Who knows?!
I check tyd several times a week to see if there is any change. If the aerokit was removed by a constraint I would almost certainly cancel.

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Old 02-08-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by erick.ibarra
I have a freeze date in 2 days and I am torn on the last choice; Interior, currently have the standard + silver grey seat belts, but thinking if it will be a mistake to not get the Standard Carrera T standard with slate grey stitching, I know it has been discussed that the slate grey is almost not noticeable, but what if it ends up being good and the 911 on headrests pops up nicely

the harder part is that you lose the silver grey seatbelts and get a darker grey that is almost black ( 2nd picture).,

It's my first one and I don't want to have regrets later for 2-3k$.

Any comments on either choice?



Someone else mentioned what a great opportunity that package is, and I had never thought of it. (I'm a full leather guy). But it is the only opportunity to get deviated stitching on a non leather interior...from that perspective it is a really good value.
Old 02-08-2023, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bobert75
How is the standard sport-tex "more grippy" than the T interior sport-tex considering it's the same fabric just with some subtle gray or green stitching in it, and considering none of us have driven a 992 T yet?
I don't know that one is substantially "grippier". but I do think the "striped" sporttex may be coarser (like a 991.2) than the checkerboard which is available on other 992s. It will certainly be nice to see cars in person so we can do away with all of our speculation.
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Old 02-08-2023, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Barkat03
I find it hard to believe the Porsche hierarchy back in Stuttgart are happy for this to be happening in the US. It’s bribery plain and simple!
I’ve never heard of it happening in the UK and speaking personally I’ve ordered from various dealers over the years, both Porsche owned and franchises and never even been hinted at.
Does this happen at Ferrari, McLaren, Corvette etc dealers too??
Short answer...yes. Long answer you may need to buy a Suburban first, commit to a McLaren subscription or buy one of every other marque the Ferrari dealer owns...do all the 30k services on them on day 2 of ownership, join the Ferrari dealers cigar smoking club, contract that they have first right to buy the car back at their pre determined price and pre-pay for the car 5 years in advance. (While saying pretty please.).
Old 02-08-2023, 05:17 PM
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My freeze date was just moved from 2/23 to 2/21
Old 02-08-2023, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by anythingbuttime
I check tyd several times a week to see if there is any change. If the aerokit was removed by a constraint I would almost certainly cancel.
If your freeze date is before 1.26 my understanding is that your aero is locked in.
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Old 02-08-2023, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
If your freeze date is before 1.26 my understanding is that your aero is locked in.
I Think what you mean is "If your Order submitted date is before..." Or are you saying that as long as you Froze a couple weeks ago then nothing will change?
Old 02-08-2023, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by toph4242
I Think what you mean is "If your Order submitted date is before..." Or are you saying that as long as you Froze a couple weeks ago then nothing will change?
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Old 02-08-2023, 06:34 PM
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I checked with my SA and he said the same as above. My order has been in since early Jan and I freeze in a couple days. He said I would have heard by now if Aero was coming off. Really hoping he's right!
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Old 02-08-2023, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TomTarzian
Perhaps @Scott P knows the answer to this, but I am beginning to wonder if it is an antitrust violation in the US for dealers to require customers to buy aftermarket products (such as PPF) from them in order to get an allocation? I think I vaguely recall my company's general counsel describing something like this as illegal tying.

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@TomTarzian It is referred to as "tying" by the FTC and in some instances may be a violation of U.S. Antitrust laws. The test turns on "particular factual settings, but the general rule is that tying products raises antitrust questions when it restricts competition without providing benefits to consumers." I just read some of the guidelines published by U.S. DOJ and it almost seems as if the plaintiff in a cause of action against a car dealer who's tying in the purchase of PPF to the availability of the car is either another PPF installer as it stifles its competition with the dealer to provide PPF or the FTC. I think if anything, I'd notify your State's Attorney General's Office and the FTC. The cases I saw were FTC v. Lowes, Standard Oil v. United States and the like. I didn't see any cases styled in the same vein as Joe Smith v. Tying Company, Inc. for example. I'm aware in NY, if you file a complaint against an insurance company through the AG's office, they MUST respond. I'd be shocked if the same weren't true for antitrust cases as well. Here's the DOJ contact info: antitrust.atr@usdoj.gov and here's the AG Finder for every State: https://www.usa.gov/state-attorney-general

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Old 02-08-2023, 07:27 PM
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Thanks @TomTarzian for forcing me to learn something today!
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamin11
Having seen the LA show car in person, which was python green over leather T interior with slate stitching, I can say confidently that there is almost no contrast between the stitching and the leather. Maybe if the car is outside, under direct sunlight, the distinction is noticeable. But if you’re not looking for it, you won’t notice the contrast.
The LA show car is leather T interior with black stitching. It has standard T sporttex pattern seats, not the unique sporttex pattern on the slate or green package.

See my previous post on this topic: https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1230...l#post18561249
Old 02-08-2023, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bzcat
The LA show car is leather T interior with black stitching. It has standard T sporttex pattern seats, not the unique sporttex pattern on the slate or green package.

See my previous post on this topic: https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1230...l#post18561249
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification
Old 02-09-2023, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott P
Thanks @TomTarzian for forcing me to learn something today!
Most welcome, @Scott P ...and all you other Porsche smitten legal eagles!

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Old 02-09-2023, 12:28 AM
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Does anyone know what Porsche means when they say: “The windscreen also features a grey top tint.”

Stumbled across this on the original Porsche press release for the T. Are they saying the front windshield is tinted gray, or the black portion at the very top of the windshield is gray, or what? Not sure this was evident in any photos/videos so far.


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