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Old 02-04-2023, 02:49 PM
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I think it's only the 992 GT3 touring wing that gets a higher angle no?
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:32 PM
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Personally, I wish Porsche did not have an active rear spoiler.

With it up, the car just looks goofy.

If the 911 shape needs additional downforce, why just add a rear diffuser (like with the GT cars)
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Personally, I wish Porsche did not have an active rear spoiler.

With it up, the car just looks goofy.

If the 911 shape needs additional downforce, why just add a rear diffuser (like with the GT cars)
The more important purpose is forcing air into the intercoolers.
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by anythingbuttime
The more important purpose is forcing air into the intercoolers.
Not sure that is the "more important" purpose, but it does provide additional cooling in addition to serving its main purpose -- reducing lift.

But if providing more cooling was a critical goal, then PAG should add or have larger intercoolers.

And not sure why in the 992 generation Porsche decided to move the intercoolers below the spoiler, as to having it on the rear fender like in the 991.2.
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Old 02-04-2023, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Not sure that is the "more important" purpose, but it does provide additional cooling in addition to serving its main purpose -- reducing lift.

But if providing more cooling was a critical goal, then PAG should add or have larger intercoolers.

And not sure why in the 992 generation Porsche decided to move the intercoolers below the spoiler, as to having it on the rear fender like in the 991.2.
In the 991.2 generation, the shape, hinge-point and overall movement was redesigned to redirect airflow down to the fans. If you look at the previous generations the 'spoiler' moved up and back to create downforce. For the 991.2 the movement creates something more akin to an airbrake to direct air to the intercoolers. This is the reason why there was no 991.2 "large wing" aerokit. It isn't the location of the intercoolers, it is the air path that is directed by the spoiler. Also notice the spoiler is open at speeds that would create little to no tangible downforce on the turbo 3.0 cars.
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Old 02-04-2023, 05:03 PM
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Im going carbon roof for 2 reasons:
1. I think it is really unique and not on too many cars (because it is overpriced, yes lol)
2. I just think it looks SO COOL in person, and makes up for the lack of the LWBS for me
I agree with you and have chose to remove rear axle steering and added a CF roof.
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Does anyone wonder why the declared max speed of the the T is lower than the base 992 and aligned with the base convertible? Maybe aerodynamic (wing tilt angle)?
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Does anyone wonder why the declared max speed of the the T is lower than the base 992 and aligned with the base convertible? Maybe aerodynamic (wing tilt angle)?
Manual transmission gearing? Base is standard with PDK, T standard with manual.
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Old 02-04-2023, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tourenwagen
I think it's only the 992 GT3 touring wing that gets a higher angle no?
Nope... In the Tech specs of the T, it specifically states that the angle is increased for more aggressive downforce.
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Does anyone wonder why the declared max speed of the the T is lower than the base 992 and aligned with the base convertible? Maybe aerodynamic (wing tilt angle)?

992 T has a shorter final drive ratio.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Personally, I wish Porsche did not have an active rear spoiler.

With it up, the car just looks goofy.

If the 911 shape needs additional downforce, why just add a rear diffuser (like with the GT cars)
The car does look better with it down, but I have to say... the 992 Active wing is by far the best looking one they have ever designed... The fact that it runs the entire width of the car and even wraps around the side I think looks pretty cool... And even more so, The fact that it actually is active and does Air Braking and all that stuff adds to the cool factor for me as well.
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Old 02-04-2023, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Personally, I wish Porsche did not have an active rear spoiler.

With it up, the car just looks goofy.

If the 911 shape needs additional downforce, why just add a rear diffuser (like with the GT cars)
Totally agree. Maybe its just me being weird, but every time I see photos clearly posed with the spoiler up I shake my head. It looks unfinished and reminds of me of when you see someone driving around with their trunk partway open because they just finished a home depot run and the goods wont fit in their car.
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Originally Posted by Macboy
I was hoping the rear spoiler tilts at a higher angle than the ordinary Carrera on the 992. On the 991.2 this was definitely the case. I thought I would check and make a photoshop to compare. However I could only find a picture from a red GTS. Does the GTS wing also tilt higher than the Carrera one or doesn’t the T wing tilt any higher?


The rear spoiler for sure is higher on the T... my understanding from looking at a few different tech sheets is that the GTS and the T have the same wing angle, in fact I think the GTS, S and T all have the same one now, but someone correct me if I am wrong...The S I know is higher than the base... Here is the tech sheet for the T

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Old 02-04-2023, 06:00 PM
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Seems like two groups when it comes to selecting colors or cosmetic features for a sports car.

I for example see 911’s and 718’s as toys - big toys - but toys and they are unnecessarily fast, loud and uncomfortable on the road and of course generally inconvenient in just about every aspect from fuel consumption to ingress/egress; servicing costs, trunk space and seating - and typically only two seats.

In my case - I want my cars to catch your attention and not to be confused with a Toyota Camry or a Volkswagen or an economy car.
My cars usually have fun livery or are fun colors both inside and outside. See below-

even my Panamera is not just a boring four door sedan.

Then there are the guys who want to make their high performance sports cars blend in with the surrounding boring blah color cars. Black, gray or chalk or some sort of tan and similar interiors. Look at the cars in most large parking lots - white, gray, tans, brown, silver and maybe one or two in Orange, bright blue, yellow or a fun green.

anyway- there were comments on matching the interior to the exterior paint/ I have done this on two cars painted in Shark blue and I really love how the blue interior trim stands out and compliments the exterior paint. My T will be python green with the Green T package interior and green chrono and green tach and green seatbelts — and the paint matching green interior trim.

it will be a fun looking sports car and makes a statement that I am a toy - matchbox toy full scale.

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If you’re buying a typical car -even a luxury sedan signal orange is not a great idea.

But if your buying a toy car then it should look like the toy it is already.

I honestly don’t get the decision to pay $12,000 for a PTS color in some brown or gray color.

Just my opinion and I agree all colors are subjective and none are right or wrong.

These are pics of cars that I configured - and I designed custom livery for all of them also.

Negative opinions are enjoyed as much as the positive. Some guys will find these subjectively ugly and annoying - but little kids always love my toy cars.


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Old 02-04-2023, 06:04 PM
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Did we ever get confirmation on the final drive ratio of the t?
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