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Guess I'll jump in and say I'll likely be trading my 991.2 GT3 for my T. As much as I love my GT3 - and I mean truly love it... it's an absolutely perfect spec dream car for a lot of people... I just feel like it's "too special" for what I need / want out of a car right now and therefore don't reach for the keys very often. If I'm not going out for some 9k rips or weekend driving on the back roads, then I feel like I'm just not using the car correctly. Not to mention the roads are horrible and drivers are completely careless in my area (PGA Frisco). Everything is under construction due to the population growth so there's tons of debris and **** all over the roads and traffic is constantly miserable. So, the GT3 sits most of the time and regrettably has become a garage queen.
Re: 718 GT4 / Spyder... I haven't driven either (which I probably should before finalizing my order) but I have a feeling both are equally just as fun, if not more fun than a new T. But I think the T will be better suited for these roads until the construction is complete. Then I'll likely try to find a 992 Touring. Years away...
I'm definitely going to miss the 991.2 GT3 if I decide to trade. The sound it makes, the paint color, just everything. I'm well aware the T won't make me feel exactly like the GT3 does. I think we all know it's not a "GT3 Lite". For me, the T is ultimately the least special, special 911 I can get right now that'll still give me a small piece of what the GT3 gives. And I think I'll drive it more, so that could make up for everything else I'll be missing.
The roads round me played a massive part in me not getting on with the GT4 so completely understand. My T is so much more compliant than the GT4, it crashed and banged over every imperfection whereas the T is just perfect for me.
How much of this is down to the buckets in the GT4 I’m not sure as the T has comfort seats but it was a lesson for me.
As others have said GT4 if you track or T for the road.
Guess I'll jump in and say I'll likely be trading my 991.2 GT3 for my T. As much as I love my GT3 - and I mean truly love it... it's an absolutely perfect spec dream car for a lot of people... I just feel like it's "too special" for what I need / want out of a car right now and therefore don't reach for the keys very often. If I'm not going out for some 9k rips or weekend driving on the back roads, then I feel like I'm just not using the car correctly. Not to mention the roads are horrible and drivers are completely careless in my area (PGA Frisco). Everything is under construction due to the population growth so there's tons of debris and **** all over the roads and traffic is constantly miserable. So, the GT3 sits most of the time and regrettably has become a garage queen.
Re: 718 GT4 / Spyder... I haven't driven either (which I probably should before finalizing my order) but I have a feeling both are equally just as fun, if not more fun than a new T. But I think the T will be better suited for these roads until the construction is complete. Then I'll likely try to find a 992 Touring. Years away...
I'm definitely going to miss the 991.2 GT3 if I decide to trade. The sound it makes, the paint color, just everything. I'm well aware the T won't make me feel exactly like the GT3 does. I think we all know it's not a "GT3 Lite". For me, the T is ultimately the least special, special 911 I can get right now that'll still give me a small piece of what the GT3 gives. And I think I'll drive it more, so that could make up for everything else I'll be missing.
I know this is an @sshole thing to say, but if you can - find a way to keep the GT3 and add on another sports car. I tried my hardest to make the “one sports car” thing happen and I just couldn’t make it work.
You are right in that the GT3 is an event car - if you can’t really drive it, then it’s almost frustrating to drive. It’s miserable to drive in traffic and over crap roads and around crap drivers. The flip side is - there are very few cars that will give you the feeling and sound of a 9k RPM NA motor and the driving experience of a GT3 (especially in manual).
The T would be a great compliment to the GT3, but if that’s not affordable, maybe find another car that fits that niche that’s not a 911. For me it was an M2 comp.
I just have a feeling that when the honeymoon wears off the T - you’re going to miss that GT3.
Two of the three Porsches I've owned have been black. And one other car as well. You get visible swirl marks just be looking at it slightly wrong. Pretty much the curse of buying used cars and I would NEVER buy a new car in black. They look mighty slick when new/polished/waxed, but man--so incredibly hard to maintain.
Originally Posted by Pivot
I never had a black car… they look great in the showroom… not so much on wet roads in the UK.
I think dirty black cars look good. Clean ones, too, of course.
... I just feel like it's "too special" for what I need / want out of a car right now and therefore don't reach for the keys very often.
I do sympathize for you.
I use my 992 GTS as a daily drive and after my first 1.000km I start wondering if it is not just too much for an everyday use. I might be wrong but I believe that in the vast majority of the situations a 992T would probably tick all the boxes. Even on empty roads I got the feeling the power of the GTS is huge, more then what I can use (empty highways included).
I'll wait for the first few track days in Spring to decide whether to trade it in for a 992T or not.
I know this is an @sshole thing to say, but if you can - find a way to keep the GT3 and add on another sports car. I tried my hardest to make the “one sports car” thing happen and I just couldn’t make it work.
You are right in that the GT3 is an event car - if you can’t really drive it, then it’s almost frustrating to drive. It’s miserable to drive in traffic and over crap roads and around crap drivers. The flip side is - there are very few cars that will give you the feeling and sound of a 9k RPM NA motor and the driving experience of a GT3 (especially in manual).
The T would be a great compliment to the GT3, but if that’s not affordable, maybe find another car that fits that niche that’s not a 911. For me it was an M2 comp.
I just have a feeling that when the honeymoon wears off the T - you’re going to miss that GT3.
100% agree, i have a 2016 GT4 for track days and backroads ripping, and a 992 arriving in March for “daily” driving and commuting. Keep both, there’s no perfect “1 car garage”