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Old 11-25-2022 | 03:35 PM
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Interesting. I've never been asked how many seats are in my car. A 911 is a 911. More liability with more people in the car. Interesting.

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Old 11-25-2022 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 911boy
Interesting. I've never been asked how many seats are in my car. A 911 is a 911.
Your VIN would show it. No need to ask.
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Old 11-25-2022 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
Your VIN would show it. No need to ask.
The vin is not going to indicate if the car was spec'd with rear seats or not. I understand the concept the poster is trying to convey but he is misapplying it. There are too many factors an actuarial would put into a calculation to hang your hat on any one...do I think number of seats would fit into the equation..yes. But for this purpose, a 911 would be considered a 4 seat car whether or not it has 4 seats.
Old 11-25-2022 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by anythingbuttime
The vin is not going to indicate if the car was spec'd with rear seats or not. I understand the concept the poster is trying to convey but he is misapplying it. There are too many factors an actuarial would put into a calculation to hang your hat on any one...do I think number of seats would fit into the equation..yes. But for this purpose, a 911 would be considered a 4 seat car whether or not it has 4 seats.
Actually, it does show the number of seats. You can check it here: https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/decoder/

And I think it's the opposite of what you say. My (now sold) 911T is showing up as a 2 seater even though it had rear seats, so there's that.
Old 11-25-2022 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikone
In the US, the seats could make a difference in insurance cost as well.
This is an urban legend, a remnant from a bygone era when insurance was based more on feelings than math. Nowadays no reputable insurer cares how many seats are in your car. They look at drivers of your model of vehicle, drivers in your area, and personal / socioeconomic factors (a surprise to many: credit score can be a major factor!) and assign risk levels based on recency-weighted historical data on the cost of claims and incidents caused by drivers with similar profiles.
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Old 11-25-2022 | 04:17 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. Stats show that 2 doors are more expensive to insure than 4 doors. Not sure that's an urban legend as well.
Old 11-25-2022 | 04:24 PM
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Well sure. But that's not because of the number of doors, just like the difference between 2 and 4 seats is not because of the number of seats. Correlation is not causation. It's because of the risk profile generated from the number of claims and incidents caused by or involving drivers of those vehicles. In the case of a brand new 911, there's almost certainly no difference in risk between folks who option a rear seat delete and those who do not.
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Old 11-25-2022 | 04:27 PM
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I agree with that. Either way, if I was on the fence between rear seats or not, I'd check into it with my insurance company. That's just me. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I need that rears seat for my daughter's booster.
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Originally Posted by Ikone
I agree with that. Either way, if I was on the fence between rear seats or not, I'd check into it with my insurance company. That's just me. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I need that rears seat for my daughter's booster.
And that would be a really strange concern. I will reiterate, there is no digit in your vin that indicates it is a 2 seat T or a 4 seat T. Only that it is a 911 Carrera T with pdk or manual. (And where it was made, where it was heading to and its sequence number) What I believe you are eluding to is that there is a database that contains individual vehicle equipment information for your specific vehicle.
Old 11-25-2022 | 05:19 PM
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2 seat vs 4 seat 911 - I don’t think it makes a difference for insurance. Most 2 seater 911s are GTs and those are more expensive and obviously higher theoretical risk from a performance standpoint (ie number of seats is probably immaterial in that case)

Even if it did - who cares? It’s probably a rounding error worth of difference.

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Old 11-25-2022 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by anythingbuttime
And that would be a really strange concern. I will reiterate, there is no digit in your vin that indicates it is a 2 seat T or a 4 seat T. Only that it is a 911 Carrera T with pdk or manual. (And where it was made, where it was heading to and its sequence number) What I believe you are eluding to is that there is a database that contains individual vehicle equipment information for your specific vehicle.
It's not in the VIN itself of course. I thought that was obvious. Not 'alluding'.
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Wow this thread devolved quickly…into a insurance discussion.
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Old 11-25-2022 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alc
Wow this thread devolved quickly…into a insurance discussion.
This thread was started 11 months ago.
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Old 11-25-2022 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rokkerkory
I just got an allocation on Friday so nothing yet. I haven't even submitted my build. Super early in the process for me.

after you get a confirmed allocation and submit your build, order goes from V150 to V170 to V200. Then you get the PORSCHE TRACK YOUR DREAM email. I received my email on Nov 9.
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Old 11-26-2022 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SapphireBlue981S
after you get a confirmed allocation and submit your build, order goes from V150 to V170 to V200. Then you get the PORSCHE TRACK YOUR DREAM email. I received my email on Nov 9.
thank you for this info


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