992 Carrera T Club
#1636
Here's my build. My thought is simpler and basic is better. I could still be talked out of RAS if I had a good back-to-back comparison review of a T with and without. My 991 T did not have RAS and I thought it handled great, but I have only driven GT3 with RAS and RS6 which is much longer, so I don't have a comparison. I am leaning toward RAS because the positive reviews so far and the longer wheelbase of the 992. The fire extinguisher is just for fun - does it get in the way of the passenger or any reason not to get it?
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#1637
Happy Ts-giving everyone. Another good question/discussion today about SC and PADM. My thoughts are if we get the dynamic mounts, great. If we don't, it's not a huge loss and like some mentioned that's one less expensive component to potentially go wrong in the future. My C63 that the T will be replacing was a non-S model, meaning it was missing a few items/features found on the C63S. The main ones were the larger turbos on the motor, larger front brakes, and dynamic motor mounts. Sound familiar? I am sure the mounts make a difference especially on track, but certainly not enough to make or break the T for me.
I was also thinking to myself what options on the S must be ticked to get all the equipment possible on the S that comes standard on the T. All I could come up with playing with the configurator was sport package w/ manual and sport seat plus with sport tex, anything I am missing? of course things like rear seat delete, lightweight glass and sound deadening removal cant be done on the S.
I was also thinking to myself what options on the S must be ticked to get all the equipment possible on the S that comes standard on the T. All I could come up with playing with the configurator was sport package w/ manual and sport seat plus with sport tex, anything I am missing? of course things like rear seat delete, lightweight glass and sound deadening removal cant be done on the S.
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balucipher (11-25-2022)
#1638
Here's my build. My thought is simpler and basic is better. I could still be talked out of RAS if I had a good back-to-back comparison review of a T with and without. My 991 T did not have RAS and I thought it handled great, but I have only driven GT3 with RAS and RS6 which is much longer, so I don't have a comparison. I am leaning toward RAS because the positive reviews so far and the longer wheelbase of the 992. The fire extinguisher is just for fun - does it get in the way of the passenger or any reason not to get it?
The fire extinguisher is a good deal and doesn't get in the way. If you find that it does, it's easy to remove and put back in for track days.
I would probably delete the side decals and get the satin black wheels if I was getting yellow but I also get keeping all the T exclusive accents.
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6sigma (11-25-2022)
#1639
Here’s mine
http://www.porschecode.com/PPB87JS3
Don’t laugh😉 I want PDK for the dreadful traffic where I am and sunroof for early morning drives. RAS added after yesterdays reviews.
If I was buying for the next person it would be buckets and carbon roof most definitely but this one’s a keeper.
http://www.porschecode.com/PPB87JS3
Don’t laugh😉 I want PDK for the dreadful traffic where I am and sunroof for early morning drives. RAS added after yesterdays reviews.
If I was buying for the next person it would be buckets and carbon roof most definitely but this one’s a keeper.
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#1640
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#1641
Also it looks like the full bucket seat option code is Q1K instead of the old P11. I wonder what they changed on them.
The porsche codes for the cars with Bose and full bucket seats load but those options don't show up in the summary page (as expected)
#1642
How to summarise the new Porsche 911 Carrera T? It’s a Goldilocks moment: purists may demand more grunt and more go, track-day fanatics may still lust after the GT models and the open-air brigade will seek out a 911 Cabriolet – hell, rally-raiders with money to burn can even now pick the go-anywhere Dakar.
But this is 911kind at its purest: modest muscle that’s just enough, yet never not enough. T stands for terrific.
But this is 911kind at its purest: modest muscle that’s just enough, yet never not enough. T stands for terrific.
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#1643
Last edited by greggles991; 11-25-2022 at 07:08 AM.
#1644
So it looks like the two cars that I would be most interested in seeing reviews on are the manual gulf blue car without RAS and the python green car that doesn’t have full buckets and also without RAS.
The silver car without RAS is PDK.
So maybe as previously discussed the better reviewers still have not put out their opinions and got to try the different flavors on offer but I think what has been put out so far at least YouTube video wise only drove one car.
I guess since RAS is so controversial that there are journalists in both camps and nothing will change their opinion.
It’s unfortunate that buyers cannot go to the dealership and drive similarly specced cars with and without the option.
Like others I could still go either way. Porsche and their marketing department are geniuses with the “purist” tagline. Put the onus on the buyer.
If they would have either included it and charged more or excluded and not made it an option most of us would not question it as the decision was made by Porsche as what their true definition of a Purist 911 should be.
The silver car without RAS is PDK.
So maybe as previously discussed the better reviewers still have not put out their opinions and got to try the different flavors on offer but I think what has been put out so far at least YouTube video wise only drove one car.
I guess since RAS is so controversial that there are journalists in both camps and nothing will change their opinion.
It’s unfortunate that buyers cannot go to the dealership and drive similarly specced cars with and without the option.
Like others I could still go either way. Porsche and their marketing department are geniuses with the “purist” tagline. Put the onus on the buyer.
If they would have either included it and charged more or excluded and not made it an option most of us would not question it as the decision was made by Porsche as what their true definition of a Purist 911 should be.
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6sigma (11-25-2022)
#1645
My current T has power steering plus not specced by me and I have zero complaints. It’s only for parking speeds so if you do much city driving it may be worthwhile I’d say.
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#1646
The specs on the press vehicles are all European so some of the combinations are not available on US spec vehicles.
For example, the Gulf blue car that was reviewed on YouTube did not have a backup camera when he put the car in reverse.
For example, the Gulf blue car that was reviewed on YouTube did not have a backup camera when he put the car in reverse.
#1647
https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-t?...PbVTFuuQ8ZzqDc
Pretty effusive review. Still don’t quite understand how a Carrera S is “clinical” if otherwise similarly fitted, I do agree with them that the PDK paddles are unpleasant to use making making manual shifting not nearly as pleasant as the stick.
Incidentally they also recommend RAS:
“Yet if you have the means a Carrera T with rear axle steer is hard to ignore because not only is it the best 992 Carrera it’s one of the best modern era 911s.”
Pretty effusive review. Still don’t quite understand how a Carrera S is “clinical” if otherwise similarly fitted, I do agree with them that the PDK paddles are unpleasant to use making making manual shifting not nearly as pleasant as the stick.
Incidentally they also recommend RAS:
“Yet if you have the means a Carrera T with rear axle steer is hard to ignore because not only is it the best 992 Carrera it’s one of the best modern era 911s.”
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#1648
https://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-t?...PbVTFuuQ8ZzqDc
Pretty effusive review. Still don’t quite understand how a Carrera S is “clinical” if otherwise similarly fitted, I do agree with them that the PDK paddles are unpleasant to use making making manual shifting not nearly as pleasant as the stick.
Incidentally they also recommend RAS:
“Yet if you have the means a Carrera T with rear axle steer is hard to ignore because not only is it the best 992 Carrera it’s one of the best modern era 911s.”
Pretty effusive review. Still don’t quite understand how a Carrera S is “clinical” if otherwise similarly fitted, I do agree with them that the PDK paddles are unpleasant to use making making manual shifting not nearly as pleasant as the stick.
Incidentally they also recommend RAS:
“Yet if you have the means a Carrera T with rear axle steer is hard to ignore because not only is it the best 992 Carrera it’s one of the best modern era 911s.”
Since he has previously responded to me on Twitter I may ask him to clarify and see if he responds.
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#1649
Fresh off my youtube feed
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#1650
Yes I linked this story yesterday. But again confusing to me is he reviewed a 992 c2 gts without RAS a few weeks ago and said to skip the option. Also in his review of the “T” he alludes to the livability with RAS. He never really mentions the performance attributes. I’m okay if I have to make an occasional 3 point turn.
Since he has previously responded to me on Twitter I may ask him to clarify and see if he responds.
Since he has previously responded to me on Twitter I may ask him to clarify and see if he responds.
RAS is a worthwhile option - I’m not sure why these guys vacillate all the time about it. It makes for good copy I guess, but people looking to buy just can’t rely on a consistent opinion from car journalists.
Re: The T vs S - I could understand if one were to say the base Carrera engine was simply more enjoyable to work than the S - if that’s the case, I wish they’d articulate that. It’s ironic that the GTS is conversely lauded for having more power than the C2S.
The Carrera S is like the middle child of the range - at least for reviewers. They just can’t get excited. It’s not a sexy option for them, like the T or GTS.
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