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Old 10-31-2022, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
The Corsa tires on the 991.2 turbo s are as good as the Cup2s on the 991.2 GT3.

the 992 turbo S NA1 tires are hot garbage though.
We were comparing 992 GT3 to 992 TT-S here, and the 992 TT/TT-S are no longer offered with R-comp tires as they were with previous generations, while the 992 GT3 is offered with even more extreme PSC2R tires. The GT3 will always offer a purer driving experience, there no denying that. However, in terms of lap times, on the same tires and depending on the track, there will be instances where the TT-S is faster than the GT3. Porsche manages the pecking order very well, there's a reason they are no longer offering the 992 TT-S with R-comp tires .

But going back on the topic of this thread, same driver same day same tires, I don't see a 992C-T matching the pace of a 992 GT3.

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Old 10-31-2022, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by balucipher
buckets will have the standard race tex centers but they're just velcro'd in and you can get custom inserts from like P1 Designs (who I went with for my buckets) with your favorite green pattern

https://p1designs.com/
p1 seems to be the go to for bucket inserts. I’ve been back and forth about changing mine out. Big impact for not a lot of money - way cheaper than Porsche prices, that’s for sure.
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Old 10-31-2022, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
Looks like you have yourself convinced
for getting a T...absolutely! Hoping for March or April delivery with PTS.
Old 10-31-2022, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
You will be searching for more camber sooner or later. There is a reason all GT cars have adjustable suspension parts designed to add more camber. The whole reason the 992 GT3 went to double wishbones is for greater camber control through the travel range. It’s like a drug, once you start adding it, you can’t seem to stop. I am up to -3.5 on my GT4 and want to add even more.
Your point on the magic of negative camber, even more so when in the context of unequal length A arms, is a good one.
Do you happen to know what the maximum negative camber is for the non-GT 992 vs the GT cars?
Thank you.

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Old 10-31-2022, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CanAutM3
We were comparing 992 GT3 to 992 TT-S here, and the 992 TT/TT-S are no longer offered with R-comp tires as they were with previous generations, while the 992 GT3 is offered with even more extreme PSC2R tires. The GT3 will always offer a purer driving experience, there no denying that. However, in terms of lap times, on the same tires and depending on the track, there will be instances where the TT-S is faster than the GT3. Porsche manages the pecking order very well, there's a reason they are no longer offering the 992 TT-S with R-comp tires .

But going back on the topic of this thread, same driver same day same tires, I don't see a 992C-T matching the pace of a 992 GT3.
...even with ECU tune and more than 440 ft lbs torque and 415 or more wheel HP for the base engine?
(even accounting for about 110 lbs. less weight for the GT3)
Old 10-31-2022, 05:14 PM
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Are we really trying to convince ourselves that a $117K Carrera T can be faster than a $170K (in reality, $250K) GT3? I am not expecting that, but it damn well better be faster around the Nurburgring or VIR (in Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap series) than a Carrera S!
Old 10-31-2022, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba
Are we really trying to convince ourselves that a $117K Carrera T can be faster than a $170K (in reality, $250K) GT3? I am not expecting that, but it damn well better be faster around the Nurburgring or VIR (in Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap series) than a Carrera S!
If you spec the Carrera S with Sports Package basically same equipment as the T, Carrera S would probably be faster around the track TBH (more power / more brakes). The T is not about lap times. Porsche will never break the heirarchy.
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Old 10-31-2022, 06:54 PM
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I was thinking the T is trading some of the S's comfort for performance, but you're probably right, it's an intentional hierarchy.
Old 10-31-2022, 07:24 PM
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I'd love to be able to drive them back to back. Clearly, on paper they will have different personalities. Base engine with a flatter torque curve, a little lighter, and more raw (less sound deadening, etc) may not be faster around a track, but it may feel faster or at least more visceral. And when you're talking about back road driving or just simple HPDE days where all of these cars have more capabilities than their drivers do, it's probably more about perception than reality.
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Old 10-31-2022, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tompoodie
...even with ECU tune and more than 440 ft lbs torque and 415 or more wheel HP for the base engine?
(even accounting for about 110 lbs. less weight for the GT3)
I thought some of the performance comparisons were considering aftermarket mods to a T, vs a stock S, GTS, etc.

I'll keep my T stock. My general rule is buy a street car that has all the stock performance I want. And if I wanted a track beast, I'd wouldn't start with a new T. I'd buy something used that someone else has already put money into. More likely to win a DE that way.
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Old 11-01-2022, 10:38 AM
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Anyone know when dealers should start getting their allocations for the 911T or anyone have a confirmed allocation yet? My dealer thinks it will be in November and today starts November.

I have a demand order... which means nothing I know.

Thank you for any insight available
Old 11-01-2022, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
p1 seems to be the go to for bucket inserts. I’ve been back and forth about changing mine out. Big impact for not a lot of money - way cheaper than Porsche prices, that’s for sure.
I used P1 for inserts in my 991.2T. Great company, awesome product. Cant recommend Kim enough
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Old 11-01-2022, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Corkdsp
Anyone know when dealers should start getting their allocations for the 911T or anyone have a confirmed allocation yet? My dealer thinks it will be in November and today starts November.

I have a demand order... which means nothing I know.

Thank you for any insight available
I was told November as well, but no specific date. Hoping PCCB will be an option when it's time to place an order.
Old 11-01-2022, 12:36 PM
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Anyone heard anything about Ruby Star?
Old 11-01-2022, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jblevz
Anyone heard anything about Ruby Star?
Haha I just made the same post in the Ruby Star thread. It's in the Kuwait configurator as a special color so I assume it'll be orderable soon.


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