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Old 09-29-2023, 03:20 AM
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Spend the entire evening looking at the ST, discussing the car in details with AP and his team. Sat in the car briefly, felt the clutch (heavier than the clutch in the GT3), and played with the shifter (about 30% shorter than the shifter in the GT3). The car looks very promising but I won't know personally until September/October of next year with my July production

For those of you who are planning on doing CXX on the ST, be quick. The CXX spots are taken up very quickly over at Zuffenhausen!


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Old 09-29-2023, 03:30 AM
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It was all vodka and no soda!!
Old 09-29-2023, 03:49 AM
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Soda? What soda?

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It was all vodka and no soda!!
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Old 09-29-2023, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by unotaz
Spend the entire evening looking at the ST, discussing the car in details with AP and his team. Sat in the car briefly, felt the clutch (heavier than the clutch in the GT3), and played with the shifter (about 30% shorter than the shifter in the GT3). The car looks very promising but I won't know personally until September/October of next year with my July production

For those of you who are planning on doing CXX on the ST, be quick. The CXX spots are taken up very quickly over at Zuffenhausen!

Interesting. Did you hear anything notable that hasn't been mentioned thus far?
Old 09-29-2023, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by unotaz
Of course they will charge interest, but that doesn't mean you can't put a giant down payment to offset that interest payment significantly.

Your calculation is based on a minimum drive off. What happens to the interest payment over 12 months time if you put down 250K? Assuming you are purchasing the car, what difference does it make?

Yes, there will be some added cost to the leasing the car, but it will be nowhere near the 50K or even 29K as you pointed out in your calculation.
I just heard some further details of the lease and this post is not going to age well.

One of several elements that will displease a lot of people and confirm my suspicion that all this is just a money grab under the marketing guise of flipper mitigation.

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Old 09-29-2023, 03:32 PM
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A new term we probably better get used to. "ADDITIONAL MANUFACTURER MARKUP"

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Old 09-29-2023, 03:43 PM
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No lease requirements for VIPs and 5k miles allowance.
Old 09-29-2023, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by soulsea
I just heard some further details of the lease and this post is not going to age well.

One of several elements that will displease a lot of people and confirm my suspicion that all this is just a money grab under the marketing guise of flipper mitigation.
I’m SHOCKED, just shocked!!
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Old 09-29-2023, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by soulsea
I just heard some further details of the lease and this post is not going to age well.

One of several elements that will displease a lot of people and confirm my suspicion that all this is just a money grab under the marketing guise of flipper mitigation.
LOL, sounds like this car is not just an exercise in marketing engineering but also in financial engineering. I hope it's not a sign of what "engineering" means to Porsche now. An idea for Porsche - issue "limited edition" derivatives based on ST market values.

disclaimer for "overly passionate": I think it's a really cool car, and I almost certainly can get it at MSRP with some horse-trading, but in 95% of driving use cases I'd prefer RS, so I'll just get that (I don't like manual, like RWS, absolutely hate rear clamshell, and don't have to drive with windows down unless I want to)
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Rather sure this is Bahama yellow and it looks great with silver wheels and silver decal, it’s a beautiful vehicle, the in person presence just can’t be captured in video
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Old 09-30-2023, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Greek Car Geek
https://youtube.com/shorts/Qu4ys8rDv...69GOtmWWbxjtKF

Rather sure this is Bahama yellow and it looks great with silver wheels and silver decal, it’s a beautiful vehicle, the in person presence just can’t be captured in video
It's a 911....
Old 09-30-2023, 11:20 AM
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Sold our 2022 Touring. Zach nails the issues with the Tourings suspension. The road noise was unreal, I never could get the seating position right, The car always felt big, ICE was annoying. Rear steer felt fake. Lots of short comings IMO.
Our previous 2018 Touring was a better all overall fun car. I would buy another 991.2 Touring and would not a 992 Touring.

Looking forward to our 718 Spyder RS.
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Old 09-30-2023, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by newalbanyohio
Sold our 2022 Touring. Zach nails the issues with the Tourings suspension. The road noise was unreal, I never could get the seating position right, The car always felt big, ICE was annoying. Rear steer felt fake. Lots of short comings IMO.
Our previous 2018 Touring was a better all overall fun car. I would buy another 991.2 Touring and would not a 992 Touring.

Looking forward to our 718 Spyder RS.
Did you really just say ICE was annoying?
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Old 09-30-2023, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by newalbanyohio
Sold our 2022 Touring. Zach nails the issues with the Tourings suspension. The road noise was unreal, I never could get the seating position right, The car always felt big, ICE was annoying. Rear steer felt fake. Lots of short comings IMO.
Our previous 2018 Touring was a better all overall fun car. I would buy another 991.2 Touring and would not a 992 Touring.

Looking forward to our 718 Spyder RS.
oh know now you really pissed off all the Touring homers that think their touring is just as good as the new ST and better than an R. Send him to the dungeon.
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