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09-27-2023, 11:41 AM
#3466
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Here are some things that are different for the S/T that could have easily been done for the GT3 touring at little or no additional cost:
- Steering wheel (deletes the ****)
- Interior
- Shifter length and shift feel
- Gear ratios
- Lightweight flywheel and clutch (at the expense of durability)
- Damper software program
- Deletion of RWS
- Steering ratio
- Removal of sound insulation (at the expense of more road noise)
- Alignment?
What did I miss?
Some of the weight reduction stuff is somewhat expensive, not sure a few pounds here and there is really noticeable.
If I had a GT3 touring and wanted to make it more like an S/T, I'd just await a DSC box to improve ride quality and might consider removing some sound insulation. Could also play with alignment to make the car more 'pointy', if desired.
- Steering wheel (deletes the ****)
- Interior
- Shifter length and shift feel
- Gear ratios
- Lightweight flywheel and clutch (at the expense of durability)
- Damper software program
- Deletion of RWS
- Steering ratio
- Removal of sound insulation (at the expense of more road noise)
- Alignment?
What did I miss?
Some of the weight reduction stuff is somewhat expensive, not sure a few pounds here and there is really noticeable.
If I had a GT3 touring and wanted to make it more like an S/T, I'd just await a DSC box to improve ride quality and might consider removing some sound insulation. Could also play with alignment to make the car more 'pointy', if desired.
09-27-2023, 11:47 AM
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09-27-2023, 11:50 AM
#3468
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Here are some things that are different for the S/T that could have easily been done for the GT3 touring at little or no additional cost:
- Steering wheel (deletes the ****)
- Interior
- Shifter length and shift feel
- Gear ratios
- Lightweight flywheel and clutch (at the expense of durability)
- Damper software program
- Deletion of RWS
- Steering ratio
- Removal of sound insulation (at the expense of more road noise)
- Alignment?
What did I miss?
Some of the weight reduction stuff is somewhat expensive, not sure a few pounds here and there is really noticeable.
If I had a GT3 touring and wanted to make it more like an S/T, I'd just await a DSC box to improve ride quality and might consider removing some sound insulation. Could also play with alignment to make the car more 'pointy', if desired.
- Steering wheel (deletes the ****)
- Interior
- Shifter length and shift feel
- Gear ratios
- Lightweight flywheel and clutch (at the expense of durability)
- Damper software program
- Deletion of RWS
- Steering ratio
- Removal of sound insulation (at the expense of more road noise)
- Alignment?
What did I miss?
Some of the weight reduction stuff is somewhat expensive, not sure a few pounds here and there is really noticeable.
If I had a GT3 touring and wanted to make it more like an S/T, I'd just await a DSC box to improve ride quality and might consider removing some sound insulation. Could also play with alignment to make the car more 'pointy', if desired.
IT WILL NEVER BE AN RS.
09-27-2023, 11:50 AM
#3469
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Just "things that are different".
Those things are different.
09-27-2023, 11:52 AM
#3470
I believe the steering ratio changed as well. I was impressed with all the changes.
Last edited by MattDFW; 09-27-2023 at 11:53 AM.
09-27-2023, 11:55 AM
#3471
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But I would never call it "easy" or "no additional cost", that's a bit dismissive.
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09-27-2023, 11:56 AM
#3472
Here are some things that are different for the S/T that could have easily been done for the GT3 touring at little or no additional cost:
- Steering wheel (deletes the ****)
- Interior
- Shifter length and shift feel
- Gear ratios
- Lightweight flywheel and clutch (at the expense of durability)
- Damper software program
- Deletion of RWS
- Steering ratio
- Removal of sound insulation (at the expense of more road noise)
- Alignment?
What did I miss?
Some of the weight reduction stuff is somewhat expensive, not sure a few pounds here and there is really noticeable.
If I had a GT3 touring and wanted to make it more like an S/T, I'd just await a DSC box to improve ride quality and might consider removing some sound insulation. Could also play with alignment to make the car more 'pointy', if desired.
- Steering wheel (deletes the ****)
- Interior
- Shifter length and shift feel
- Gear ratios
- Lightweight flywheel and clutch (at the expense of durability)
- Damper software program
- Deletion of RWS
- Steering ratio
- Removal of sound insulation (at the expense of more road noise)
- Alignment?
What did I miss?
Some of the weight reduction stuff is somewhat expensive, not sure a few pounds here and there is really noticeable.
If I had a GT3 touring and wanted to make it more like an S/T, I'd just await a DSC box to improve ride quality and might consider removing some sound insulation. Could also play with alignment to make the car more 'pointy', if desired.
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09-27-2023, 12:14 PM
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09-27-2023, 12:21 PM
#3474
This summarizes the entire thread. There is literally ONE guy in here that can get the car that is not taking an allocation. The rest of the haters can't get one, so they've made it their mission to downplay/minimize the car in any way possible. They will tell you they don't want it but if offered one at MSRP, they would all buy one. And now they're talking about how they could mod their Touring to be almost like an S/T LMAO. This thread continues to deliver.
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09-27-2023, 12:41 PM
#3475
These things you list are the sum of a lot of R&D that needs a project and a budget, hence the S/T. Just like the R took a new model to develop a manual trans, and then the touring got it later. I imagine some of this will come in the .2 gt3 version.
But I would never call it "easy" or "no additional cost", that's a bit dismissive.
But I would never call it "easy" or "no additional cost", that's a bit dismissive.
This summarizes the entire thread. There is literally ONE guy in here that can get the car that is not taking an allocation. The rest of the haters can't get one, so they've made it their mission to downplay/minimize the car in any way possible. They will tell you they don't want it but if offered one at MSRP, they would all buy one. And now they're talking about how they could mod their Touring to be almost like an S/T LMAO. This thread continues to deliver.
Last edited by Diablo Dude; 09-27-2023 at 12:46 PM.
09-27-2023, 12:42 PM
#3476
lease or not and however high the money factor is. if you get an allocation , you will take it. so what is the point of discussing? if you have allocation but can't deal with lease by all means send the damn car to me.
lease flipping hahaha.
we have contracts with hidden legal side letter to the side letter to the side letter with exclusion to side letter's side letter with exceptions and variables that takes 50 barrister to review...
if you want to flip it, you can and will flip it.
if u need a kidney, ********* or heart transplant, lmk. I will deliver. legal or not. just wire the damn money.
pls don't tell me that you all only have one wife....
lease flipping hahaha.
we have contracts with hidden legal side letter to the side letter to the side letter with exclusion to side letter's side letter with exceptions and variables that takes 50 barrister to review...
if you want to flip it, you can and will flip it.
if u need a kidney, ********* or heart transplant, lmk. I will deliver. legal or not. just wire the damn money.
pls don't tell me that you all only have one wife....
09-27-2023, 01:22 PM
#3477
What could the ST do with less of?
This ST (thread) could do with a couple of fewer posters, we all know who they are. They just keep polluting this thread with their "verbal diarrhea", whataboutery and Mother Theresa sermons on ADM & rest. The ST is not for them, so why spoil it for others.
This ST (thread) could do with a couple of fewer posters, we all know who they are. They just keep polluting this thread with their "verbal diarrhea", whataboutery and Mother Theresa sermons on ADM & rest. The ST is not for them, so why spoil it for others.
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09-27-2023, 01:33 PM
#3478
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This summarizes the entire thread. There is literally ONE guy in here that can get the car that is not taking an allocation. The rest of the haters can't get one, so they've made it their mission to downplay/minimize the car in any way possible. They will tell you they don't want it but if offered one at MSRP, they would all buy one. And now they're talking about how they could mod their Touring to be almost like an S/T LMAO. This thread continues to deliver.
09-27-2023, 04:12 PM
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Defenders of the car are the ones polarizing things. No one in this thread ‘hates’ the car, and probably everyone agrees it’s a fine car.
But there should be room for discussion of how it’s different from the gt3 touring, how significant those differences are, whether the cost is worth it, etc. Many here don’t want that discussion because they’ve decided they like and want the car, and want the thread to be cheerleading only. Seems to happen every time Porsche comes out with a ‘special’ car …
But there should be room for discussion of how it’s different from the gt3 touring, how significant those differences are, whether the cost is worth it, etc. Many here don’t want that discussion because they’ve decided they like and want the car, and want the thread to be cheerleading only. Seems to happen every time Porsche comes out with a ‘special’ car …
09-27-2023, 04:23 PM
#3480
Defenders of the car are the ones polarizing things. No one in this thread ‘hates’ the car, and probably everyone agrees it’s a fine car.
But there should be room for discussion of how it’s different from the gt3 touring, how significant those differences are, whether the cost is worth it, etc. Many here don’t want that discussion because they’ve decided they like and want the car, and want the thread to be cheerleading only. Seems to happen every time Porsche comes out with a ‘special’ car …
But there should be room for discussion of how it’s different from the gt3 touring, how significant those differences are, whether the cost is worth it, etc. Many here don’t want that discussion because they’ve decided they like and want the car, and want the thread to be cheerleading only. Seems to happen every time Porsche comes out with a ‘special’ car …
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