2thdoc14

Ive bought 2 new 911s there and a host of BMWs and then they do this.

FrostyAZ

I would tell that dealer to eat 💩

GTTROIS

Did you still purchase the car from them!?

NYCGT3

I’m curious as to what kind of “ paperwork” you had with your deposit. Did it state,” vehicle sold at msrp”?

JAB12

Isn’t it always stated as such in the initial order paperwork? ADM gets tallied on the final dealer invoice. I’ve never seen an initial PO or deposit receipt indicating anything above msrp. Would like to learn about others’ experience with this.

I am on the ‘list’ for another 911 variant with a small deposit but there is no language refering to final sale price at it above msrp on the deposit agreement.

NYCGT3

How can anyone order a vehicle and not know what the terms are? I would think the purchase contract would state MSRP plus whatever ADM if any, someone is paying. If you agreed to terms when you left your deposit, I would think that contract is binding, since the dealer took the $ as “consideration “. There will be a lot of legal issues, and wrangling as some dealers continue to damage brand loyalty for short term $….. If someone was foolish enough to leave a deposit, and say, yeah, put me on the list,without terms spelled out..,that’s quite different…

chance6

I understand you're upset with this, and I have to say I don't blame you, but at what point do you stop roasting them and potentially give them a chance to "make it right"? Or is that impossible? They are simply stroking the public for an extra $40K ADM or whatever the final amount is.

At what point do you go McLaren or Ferrari ? I mean, a Turbo S ain't cheap.

GTTROIS

Could you perhaps give an example or two of how they “could make it right” in your opinion?

AlexCeres

$40k for a turbo sucks. But … it’s not like going to McLaren or Ferrari will be cheaper or get him a car before 2023. Now is a ****ty time to buy a car. I get being upset but if you want a car in 2022, you’re stuck with getting put over a barrel and having your wallet molested. He can pay the fee or walk away. But he’s not likely to find a significantly better deal for a long time.

JAB12

Per your note, there’s a lot
of fools in this country that are waiting for Pcar allocations then. A customer demand with deposit (“list”) is not to be confused with an actual car order. The last 2 cars I bought with a confirmed allocation, the PO was signed with an ‘estimated price’ subject to change based on customer specs, dealer inventory and/or market conditions, or something to that effect. I have the paperwork on my files, when I get back to the office this week I will look for that fine print and revisit this post. Its basically a free get out of jail card for the dealer. They know what they’re doing and most could care less about the end user since demand for the product is so high. Especially on TTS and GT cars.

BTW around here ADM for a Cayenne GT is $80k. Now that is hilarious…

GTTROIS

Overall agree with you, but I, for one, would have been put off by the way this dealership is doing business and communicating, much more than the ADM itself… especially for a repeat customer.
very shady practices IMO… And I would have walked away from that place.

Yippiekiaye

Buy a used 991.

Buy a used 720.

Buy a used 488.

When market returns to normal, get a 992 GT3.

oh wait, you want to be able to spec your own Carrera white with sofas instead of picking one up used. Understood.

chance6

Give the guy a MSRP allocation on the TTS he wanted, and include tire/wheel insurance package...done.

chance6

Agreed on that. At least Ferrari doesn't play ADM games on new cars...

AlexCeres

normally I’d agree but the used prices on these are up 20+% and going to plummet back whenever normal returns, whatever normal is. It’s not going to save you much money over the $40k in adm and it won’t be the car he originally wanted (although I’d rather a 720 or 488 anyway). Strange and ****ed up times, but there aren’t any good deals on used substitutes now. Maybe that changes in a few months … maybe not.