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11-28-2023, 08:09 PM
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11-28-2023, 09:38 PM
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yeah, I’m not exactly following the desire to trade a 992 TTS in for a 992 TT.
11-28-2023, 09:54 PM
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11-28-2023, 10:13 PM
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I love the 992 TTS on road and track, but with PCCB it doesn't really work on track because it uses up a set of pads in 1-2 track days. There's currently no aftermarket conversion to iron rotors available. Putting in an aftermarket brake kit with iron rotors is about $15k, which is doable, but then I'm still tracking a very fast car with 18-way seats and 3-pt belts, which means I'm moving around a lot and there's a safety concern. Going to a 992 TT with LW pack, sport buckets, and iron brakes gets me a car which is nearly as fast on road and track (might be about equal considering weight reduction), safer on track, solves the brake problem, and louder sound.
The 992 GT3 is great, but I like the 991.2 3RS better on road and track, and we have a 4RS coming in May. I don't think we need three GT cars, and I think the GT3 makes sense as the one to go because (a) it doesn't have the rawness of the 3RS and 4RS (it's more refined), and (b) I think I'd enjoy the 992 TT at least as much on road and track as the GT3 (TT is more refined and faster than the GT3). GT3 tries to find a middle ground between rawness and refinement, but in the process it doesn't excel at either.
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11-29-2023, 12:14 AM
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My personal experience with ADM. I’ve been looking for a 992 GT3 for almost two years. They’d been trading for around $275k for the period of time I spent looking. I bit the bullet and purchased a pre owned 992 GT3 for about 28k over MSRP. I’ve accepted that MSRP will either never happen or the time it will take to get there is not worth the frustration of looking any longer.
11-29-2023, 12:31 AM
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It’s a 2022. Yes, from a dealer and is CPO.
11-29-2023, 12:31 AM
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I'm happy to explain, and comments welcome.
I love the 992 TTS on road and track, but with PCCB it doesn't really work on track because it uses up a set of pads in 1-2 track days. There's currently no aftermarket conversion to iron rotors available. Putting in an aftermarket brake kit with iron rotors is about $15k, which is doable, but then I'm still tracking a very fast car with 18-way seats and 3-pt belts, which means I'm moving around a lot and there's a safety concern. Going to a 992 TT with LW pack, sport buckets, and iron brakes gets me a car which is nearly as fast on road and track (might be about equal considering weight reduction), safer on track, solves the brake problem, and louder sound.
The 992 GT3 is great, but I like the 991.2 3RS better on road and track, and we have a 4RS coming in May. I don't think we need three GT cars, and I think the GT3 makes sense as the one to go because (a) it doesn't have the rawness of the 3RS and 4RS (it's more refined), and (b) I think I'd enjoy the 992 TT at least as much on road and track as the GT3 (TT is more refined and faster than the GT3). GT3 tries to find a middle ground between rawness and refinement, but in the process it doesn't excel at either.
I love the 992 TTS on road and track, but with PCCB it doesn't really work on track because it uses up a set of pads in 1-2 track days. There's currently no aftermarket conversion to iron rotors available. Putting in an aftermarket brake kit with iron rotors is about $15k, which is doable, but then I'm still tracking a very fast car with 18-way seats and 3-pt belts, which means I'm moving around a lot and there's a safety concern. Going to a 992 TT with LW pack, sport buckets, and iron brakes gets me a car which is nearly as fast on road and track (might be about equal considering weight reduction), safer on track, solves the brake problem, and louder sound.
The 992 GT3 is great, but I like the 991.2 3RS better on road and track, and we have a 4RS coming in May. I don't think we need three GT cars, and I think the GT3 makes sense as the one to go because (a) it doesn't have the rawness of the 3RS and 4RS (it's more refined), and (b) I think I'd enjoy the 992 TT at least as much on road and track as the GT3 (TT is more refined and faster than the GT3). GT3 tries to find a middle ground between rawness and refinement, but in the process it doesn't excel at either.
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11-29-2023, 12:33 AM
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11-29-2023, 12:40 AM
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hmmm. All very reasonable considerations but I do worry as @sechsgang alluded that the TT resale hit will be substantial. The aftermarket brake swap is a no brainer. The seats are also swappable but yeah the expenses start to add up. Hmm. I think if I had a 991.2 RS and a 4RS I’d be inclined to just leave the TTS alone. Not every car in the garage needs to be track spec’d. But that’s just me. rock on.
I can see that spec taking a resale hit, but OTOH if someone is looking for a track spec TT, it would be one of the very rare ones available. Ultimately, I don't want to let the decision be influenced much by resale value, I want to get the car that best fits my needs and wants, and I'll probably keep such a car for a long time.
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11-29-2023, 12:00 PM
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I'm happy to explain, and comments welcome.
I love the 992 TTS on road and track, but with PCCB it doesn't really work on track because it uses up a set of pads in 1-2 track days. There's currently no aftermarket conversion to iron rotors available. Putting in an aftermarket brake kit with iron rotors is about $15k, which is doable, but then I'm still tracking a very fast car with 18-way seats and 3-pt belts, which means I'm moving around a lot and there's a safety concern. Going to a 992 TT with LW pack, sport buckets, and iron brakes gets me a car which is nearly as fast on road and track (might be about equal considering weight reduction), safer on track, solves the brake problem, and louder sound.
The 992 GT3 is great, but I like the 991.2 3RS better on road and track, and we have a 4RS coming in May. I don't think we need three GT cars, and I think the GT3 makes sense as the one to go because (a) it doesn't have the rawness of the 3RS and 4RS (it's more refined), and (b) I think I'd enjoy the 992 TT at least as much on road and track as the GT3 (TT is more refined and faster than the GT3). GT3 tries to find a middle ground between rawness and refinement, but in the process it doesn't excel at either.
I love the 992 TTS on road and track, but with PCCB it doesn't really work on track because it uses up a set of pads in 1-2 track days. There's currently no aftermarket conversion to iron rotors available. Putting in an aftermarket brake kit with iron rotors is about $15k, which is doable, but then I'm still tracking a very fast car with 18-way seats and 3-pt belts, which means I'm moving around a lot and there's a safety concern. Going to a 992 TT with LW pack, sport buckets, and iron brakes gets me a car which is nearly as fast on road and track (might be about equal considering weight reduction), safer on track, solves the brake problem, and louder sound.
The 992 GT3 is great, but I like the 991.2 3RS better on road and track, and we have a 4RS coming in May. I don't think we need three GT cars, and I think the GT3 makes sense as the one to go because (a) it doesn't have the rawness of the 3RS and 4RS (it's more refined), and (b) I think I'd enjoy the 992 TT at least as much on road and track as the GT3 (TT is more refined and faster than the GT3). GT3 tries to find a middle ground between rawness and refinement, but in the process it doesn't excel at either.
However, it wouldn't be significantly attractive in the resale market. Most TT guys want the S and the creature comforts of ***. Your logic is perfect for you and your stable/use of it. So it comes down to a choice of getting the perfect TT for YOU vs resale/ what other people think.
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11-29-2023, 08:32 PM
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11-29-2023, 08:33 PM
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That's my thinking also, but the TTS was so much fun on track (strong acceleration, excellent braking, fast cornering due to stability, balance, and a lot of grip) that I feel like it's shame to have a TT/S which isn't set up to be frequently tracked. And setting it up to be frequently tracked (sport buckets and roll bar/harnesses) doesn't really compromise its use as a road car, so I feel like a track spec is best of both worlds.
I can see that spec taking a resale hit, but OTOH if someone is looking for a track spec TT, it would be one of the very rare ones available. Ultimately, I don't want to let the decision be influenced much by resale value, I want to get the car that best fits my needs and wants, and I'll probably keep such a car for a long time.
I can see that spec taking a resale hit, but OTOH if someone is looking for a track spec TT, it would be one of the very rare ones available. Ultimately, I don't want to let the decision be influenced much by resale value, I want to get the car that best fits my needs and wants, and I'll probably keep such a car for a long time.
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11-29-2023, 10:56 PM
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11-30-2023, 12:34 AM
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That's my thinking also, but the TTS was so much fun on track (strong acceleration, excellent braking, fast cornering due to stability, balance, and a lot of grip) that I feel like it's shame to have a TT/S which isn't set up to be frequently tracked. And setting it up to be frequently tracked (sport buckets and roll bar/harnesses) doesn't really compromise its use as a road car, so I feel like a track spec is best of both worlds.
I can see that spec taking a resale hit, but OTOH if someone is looking for a track spec TT, it would be one of the very rare ones available. Ultimately, I don't want to let the decision be influenced much by resale value, I want to get the car that best fits my needs and wants, and I'll probably keep such a car for a long time.
I can see that spec taking a resale hit, but OTOH if someone is looking for a track spec TT, it would be one of the very rare ones available. Ultimately, I don't want to let the decision be influenced much by resale value, I want to get the car that best fits my needs and wants, and I'll probably keep such a car for a long time.
