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Old 11-07-2023 | 01:17 PM
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It's almost as if people forgot that dealers still make money selling cars at MSRP...
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Old 11-07-2023 | 01:19 PM
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Anyone have info on how much it costs to buy a Porsche dealership, and how much profit the owner makes in good and bad years?
Old 11-07-2023 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Did your dealer go from being an MSRP dealer to an ADM dealer?
I believe so. I haven't been offered a GT3 allocation period so I can't say for sure but rumors are they were charging markup on certain models.
Old 11-07-2023 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
It's almost as if people forgot that dealers still make money selling cars at MSRP...
Yeah, a dealer selling GT cars at MSRP will not be going bankrupt anytime soon.
Old 11-07-2023 | 07:18 PM
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Anyone have info on how much it costs to buy a Porsche dealership, and how much profit the owner makes in good and bad years?
There was thread a few years ago. Explained profit percentage on msrp base sales price of the car and profit on added options. This is before ADMs lol. Service probably covers most payroll anyways. If I remember correctly options had highest percentage. But then have to take into account real estate, payroll etc etc etc. Regardless, they make good money. I remember my first GT3 I got $1500 off back in 2009 for a 2010 😅. Last week I got a 3RS allocation for $75k. I don’t like it but it is what it is. Let’s get together with some people and buy or build a new dealership 😁.
Old 11-07-2023 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Anyone have info on how much it costs to buy a Porsche dealership, and how much profit the owner makes in good and bad years?
a local dealership sold for 18 millions and change 3 years back
not sure about other details
a MB dealership sold at the same time for 28 millions
both acquiring owners were somewhat medium size corporations with 10-20 dealerships from Florida
Old 11-07-2023 | 10:10 PM
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Crowd funding a Porsche dealership only to spend $18 million and still only get two STs. 😂
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Old 11-07-2023 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Anyone have info on how much it costs to buy a Porsche dealership, and how much profit the owner makes in good and bad years?
I'm sure I know all the answers to this question, and my public answer is:

It's very difficult. If there is any blood in the water that a dealership is for sale, there are a lot of VERY wealthy, yacht owning dealers or public companies willing to spend a little more than the little guy to buy one.

FWIW building a new dealership to the Porsche corp image is quite pricey. Like custom home in a coastal city pricey per sq ft.
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Old 11-08-2023 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I'm sure I know all the answers to this question, and my public answer is:

It's very difficult. If there is any blood in the water that a dealership is for sale, there are a lot of VERY wealthy, yacht owning dealers or public companies willing to spend a little more than the little guy to buy one.

FWIW building a new dealership to the Porsche corp image is quite pricey. Like custom home in a coastal city pricey per sq ft.
Sort of like buying a sports franchise.
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Old 11-08-2023 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Crowd funding a Porsche dealership only to spend $18 million and still only get two STs. 😂
lol

My (small) local dealership that pumps out some pretty remarkable revenues was bought out by a larger franchise over the Summer.
The rumor mill says that it sold for nearly 3x your number. This same automotive group paid $48.6 million in March of this year to acquire Carson Toyota,
which is the largest car dealership in the Auto Row of Carson. According to an article that I read, the auto group took out "about a $39 million loan" from Toyota Motor Credit to finance the purchase on more than a half-acre of land.

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Old 11-08-2023 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
lol

My (small) local dealership that pumps out some pretty remarkable revenues was bought out by a larger franchise over the Summer.
The rumor mill says that it sold for nearly 3x your number. This same automotive group paid $48.6 million in March of this year to acquire Carson Toyota,
which is the largest car dealership in the Auto Row of Carson. According to an article that I read, the auto group took out "about a $39 million loan" from Toyota Motor Credit to finance the purchase on more than a half-acre of land.
FJ was able to secure a loan because they have over a billion (or maybe even 10x that) in annual revenue across all their stores... They're also a darling of MB, Audi and P because of their constant real estate projects. It helps when you have the claim to being 'the largest volume MB dealership in the world' for something like 20 of the last 30 years (FJ Newport Beach MB)

once again those type of financing things are 'relationship based' and have zero chance of being landed by small / medium dealer groups.
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Old 11-08-2023 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
FJ was able to secure a loan because they have over a billion (or maybe even 10x that) in annual revenue across all their stores... They're also a darling of MB, Audi and P because of their constant real estate projects. It helps when you have the claim to being 'the largest volume MB dealership in the world' for something like 20 of the last 30 years (FJ Newport Beach MB)

once again those type of financing things are 'relationship based' and have zero chance of being landed by small / medium dealer groups.
They also bought Circle Porsche if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 11-08-2023 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
They also bought Circle Porsche if I'm not mistaken.
correct. the former ownership on circle was very happy to receive generational wealth in exchange for his porsche store
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Old 11-08-2023 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
I'm sure I know all the answers to this question, and my public answer is:

It's very difficult. If there is any blood in the water that a dealership is for sale, there are a lot of VERY wealthy, yacht owning dealers or public companies willing to spend a little more than the little guy to buy one.

FWIW building a new dealership to the Porsche corp image is quite pricey. Like custom home in a coastal city pricey per sq ft.
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Old 11-08-2023 | 08:41 PM
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Maybe he’s right, maybe not

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